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To: federal__reserve
For example if your paycheck is $50,000, you are paying $7650 in payroll tax! Out of that 50,000, after you pay federal tax, state tax, city tax, mortgage, car payment, savings, how much money you have left to buy stuff with? It is not a difficult arithmetic. My guess you will have less than $20,000 left to spend on which you will pay less than $1800 federal sales tax.

First of all you are totally and completely WRONG. On $50,000 you only have deducted $3,825 (actually less then that while the 2% break is in place) but the other 7.65% does not get deducted from your check, it is matched by your employer. With both social security and medicare on the verge of bankruptcy with the 7.65% from you and the 7.65% from your employer, imagine what will happen to it if it's reduced to 9%.

1,514 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:46 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: McGavin999

Aha! I am so happy you are awake, and alert and smart to boot! Now here is the point, that 7.65%? If you are a good employee, and your employer is a smart businessman, he would be happy to give you that 7.65% raise, WHICH WILL NOT COST HIM 1 RED CENT. Now if you are a so-so worker, then it is hopeless for you anyways.


1,629 posted on 10/11/2011 8:10:51 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: McGavin999

“...imagine what will happen to it if it’s reduced to 9%.”

You understand that the base of the Business Flat Tax is not the same as the base for FICA, right ? Currently, the 12.4% that is SS only applies to the first $106K of wages ($5T base) while the other 2.9% of FICA applies to all wages ($6.3T base). The 9% applies to effectively all wages, plus business inputs from foreign businesses, plus profits — because payroll and foreign purchases are not deductible from a business’ revenue when determining “income”.

So instead of 12.4% of $5T in limited wages + 2.9% of $6.3T in all wages, there is 9% applied to $10T [wages ($6.3T)+imports($2T)+profits($1.7T)]. $900B from the 9% Business Flat Tax vs. $825B from the 15.3% FICA.

In this way, the 9% Business Flat Tax completely replaces the FICA revenues from BOTH employer and employee.

The 9% Sales tax on retail goods completely replaces the Corporate Income Tax revenues.

The 9% Flat Individual Income Tax applied to the full $12.5T income from all sources, minus capital gains income ($600B), minus charitable giving ($50B) leaves $11.85T taxable and $1.06T revenue. This almost exactly replaces the Progressive Individual Income Tax revenues.


1,850 posted on 10/11/2011 10:05:11 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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