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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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To: buccaneer81

You know dems always have a way around that. They would come up with a plan to “help” low income types with some kind of gimmick..

Look, I am okay with 999 as long as it stays 999.


1,441 posted on 10/11/2011 7:18:48 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Arcy
You’re right. Perry is slow. So is Cain, but not as slow as Perry. When I see Perry, I think Bush.

That's because they both talk Texan.

;)

1,442 posted on 10/11/2011 7:18:53 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: indylindy

OK, sorry if I misunderstood what you said.

The way I look at it, any tax can go up or down, depending on whom we elect. Our federal income tax can go up just as easily as the federal sales tax.

However, I watch spending habits of the woman closest to me..my wife. She notices sales tax rate so much better than her income tax rate. She avoids shopping in towns which have 0.25% additional sales tax! My point is the politicians will have a harder time sneaking in a sales tax increase than any other tax. People see it in their sales receipt with every purchase. The exact rate is there printed out! Where as the withholding in your paycheck is hard to decipher.


1,443 posted on 10/11/2011 7:18:58 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: samtheman
lol!

Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia.

I have that memory which is seared-seared-in me.

I think his brain is seared.

1,444 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:28 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: tarpit

My choice is Herman Cain, I like him and he the only conservative there. Newt is very smart and he would be good as Cain’s presidential adviser unless Cain chooses him as his running mate, which would be okay with me


1,445 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:28 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: indylindy

You mean like Hermans inner city “empowerment zones”?


1,446 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wmfights

Perry did very well. I thought he was just fine. Bachmann was her b*tchy self. Romney is a stuff shirt. Cain is all blow and no go. Of course, Newt is great. Santorum did well...I agree with your analysis except for Cain...Cain’s 999 plan is exactly what Michele said it was a new tax plan. I wasn’t impressed with Cain tonight. Like in his other debates.


1,447 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:45 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: wmfights

I really do think of the lot Perry would make the best President. The problem is that though he’s not the worst candidate, he’s down there near the bottom.

I feel really bad about that. The person who I believe would do the best job is also one of the people who I believe has a recedingly small chance of winning this thing.

I’m going into spectator mode.


1,448 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:55 PM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: wmfights

Agree with your assessment. Don’t much like the Romney-Cain mutual admiration society. Romney started the socialist healthcare pattern, Cain seems to appreciate him and it adds up to nothing but moderate, Rino style discernment on the issues.


1,449 posted on 10/11/2011 7:19:55 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: behzinlea
Gasp. He married one of Madame Tussaud’s castoff mannequins.

Hilarious post!!!

1,450 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:12 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: sockmonkey

Hahahaha!! That’s the first thing we noticed. It was a bit distracting. What was with that wonky eyebrow? LOL.


1,451 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:20 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: 07Jack

Voker, for the reasons Paul said.


1,452 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:28 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: wmfights

I like, and still like Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich


1,453 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:38 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Art in Idaho

Newt/Keyes or Newt/Santorum


1,454 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:52 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (I ou)
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To: Netizen

Cane had an impossible task: Living up to the hype. He put on his regular pedestrian performance, but expectations were way too high. He’s okay, but odd man out next to Romney and Gingrich.


1,455 posted on 10/11/2011 7:21:04 PM PDT by magritte
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To: netmilsmom

Yeah it was great hearing the specificity by saying he recalls it was on page 47 of Romeny’s plan.


1,456 posted on 10/11/2011 7:21:09 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Art in Idaho
Plus part of me just wants to see him debate Obama. . .

I'd pay to see that ...

1,457 posted on 10/11/2011 7:21:23 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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1,458 posted on 10/11/2011 7:22:01 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RitaOK

Cain lost me at “Alan Greenspan”
If he thinks Greenspan is a good advisor....Cain needs to re-consider his taste in advisors!


1,459 posted on 10/11/2011 7:22:43 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Netizen

“I think Cain stayed neutral. He didn’t hurt himself but he didn’t really gain either.”

I agree. Cain did as well as I expected. Newt and Romney are two extremely experienced debaters and would be difficult to beat. Perry didn’t show what was needed to break out of the third Tier.

Cain will get back into his groove on the stump. He did great the past week, lighting into that Wall Street mob, and telling blacks to grow up. Even the past few days, up to this debate hasn’t shown up in the polls (yet).

In the end, Newt will bump a few points (all from Perry), but most people will realize that Hillary will clean his clock in 2012. Cain should hold his own and probably stay tied with Romney.


1,460 posted on 10/11/2011 7:22:59 PM PDT by BobL (We need a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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