Posted on 10/09/2011 1:42:39 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
welcome...to the savage lands of the Left Coast. You are here in California to answer an important theoretical question and now you have your answer....Yes, this is what Barack Obama’s second term would look like.
Study it. Fear it. And then go home and make sure that it never happens to the rest of the country.
the tale of how, in the span of a single generation, the most prosperous and golden state in the nation became an economic basket case....
The political Left gradually gained dominance over California’s government and has imposed a disastrous agenda of radical and retrograde policies that have destroyed the quality of life that Californians once took for granted....
I submit to you that no conceivable act of God could wreak such devastation. Only acts of government can do that. And they have....
Our regulatory burdens are also years ahead of the rest of the nation – we’ve had our own version of Cap and Trade on the books for five years now, and even though the bulk of these restrictions yet to take effect, investors make decisions every day anticipating their impact....This has already proven utterly devastating to energy generation, cargo and passenger transportation, cement production, construction, wine making, agriculture and manufacturing. When he signed this legislation, Gov. Schwarzenegger promised that this would produce a cornucopia of new green jobs.
But I need to remind you that the Obama administration is pursuing exactly the same policies nationally – and so far with the same results....
The humility...gave way to the hubris that the state knew better...at the core of this breakdown was the abandonment of our basic republican structure of government – and it began. right. here.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
“I wonder how many illegal Mexican kids actually take advantage of the in state tuition they are eligible for after going to school in Texas for 3 years.
I would like to know, is it 10 per year, 20 per year? Knowing that the number is really small might shut some of you up on the subject and you could start talking about his hair again.”
It’s now in the thousands. But even so, they are displacing legal Texans, so if it were 10 or 20, I’d still have an issue...maybe you wouldn’t, but I would.
“Mexicans are displacing legal Texans from getting into college? The thing that keeps you out of college is your grade point average from highschool and your SAT scores, not the fact that there are Mexican kids in line ahead of you.
Besides didn’t the Texas legislature vote almost unanimously to allow the in state tuition? “
I don’t know about where you live, but here in Texas we have a limited budget for higher education. We can spend that some of that money subsidizing Illegals, or we spend that same money subsidizing in-state legals. I prefer in-state legals, but if you prefer differently, that’s fine.
As far as the legislature is concerned, the Dream Act was Perry’s honeymoon and one of his top priorities, they would given him anything. On the other hand, if Perry didn’t want the Dream Act to pass, it likely wouldn’t have been voted on, or at least he would have held a veto.
...and remember, he very recently defended it to the point of calling 81% of this country (who oppose it) Heartless. So any implication that it was forced upon him doesn’t hold water.
I am here in Texas just like you are, only longer. The only thing Perry has tried to do that I objected to was the TTC and when the citizens said NO, he dropped it. What is not to like about a politician that listens?
LOL. Yeah, I singled out Brown allowing public employees to unionize, but his very existence provides a bigger target. However, thanks to the new Pravda and Izvestia and a SKUNC ridden CAGOP, the voters never heard much of his earlier record connected to the current disaster.
“Many of the CA leftists you mention have already relocated and taken over CO.”
And WA and OR and MT and ...
If all the basket cases are here, there won't be enough to pass California style laws in or for the rest of the country.
“I am here in Texas just like you are, only longer. The only thing Perry has tried to do that I objected to was the TTC and when the citizens said NO, he dropped it. What is not to like about a politician that listens?”
He does eventually listen. Even Bush-43 listened, on Amnesty and Harriett Myers (sp.)...but do we REALLY need such ugly and public fights to drag a moderate Republican to our side? You just start out with a conservative, and things go smooth.
And by the way, the key concept of the TTC, which is monopoly-protected private toll roads (where the operators can charge as much as they wish) is still alive and kicking. Here in Houston, we’re about to get our first taste of it in the next section of the Grand Parkway. It’s also happening elsewhere in the state.
And Perry only ‘dropped’ the INSANE scheme when he saw that it was starting to get in the way of his political future. He certainly didn’t give a damn when people were SCREAMING about for the 5 years prior.
Here is what I don’t understand about the objection to the in state tuition. These kids are in Texas through no fault of their own, their illegal parents brought them here. The federal government will do nothing to help us stop it or send them back! NOTHING!
Do we want these kids standing on the corner with a sign asking for handouts or asking for day work? Or do we want them to be educated members of our society (they aren’t leaving) so they can take care of their parents when they are elderly and so the entire tribe will not end up on welfare?
No, they want them rounded up and shipped back to Mexico. To them, they are all “illegal aliens” first, people second.
“Here is what I don’t understand about the objection to the in state tuition. These kids are in Texas through no fault of their own, their illegal parents brought them here. The federal government will do nothing to help us stop it or send them back! NOTHING!
Do we want these kids standing on the corner with a sign asking for handouts or asking for day work? Or do we want them to be educated members of our society (they aren’t leaving) so they can take care of their parents when they are elderly and so the entire tribe will not end up on welfare?”
That’s the heartless argument. My argument is that we also act a magnet to the parents of illegals who are deciding where to live in the US. Texas is 55/45 Republican...it should be much higher, but we get more and more illegals all the time...and they do vote, no one checks. So I simply don’t want them here, and will support ANY incentive to keep them away.
Also, Perry’s continued defense of his Dream Act can only mean one thing, that he’ll push for an Amnesty once he gets into power...otherwise, by his own definition, he would be ‘heartless’, forcing these college graduates to stand on street corners for handouts. If he had distanced himself from this Dream Act (it was 10 years ago, after all, and things were different), there’s a good chance he’d still be in the top tier. But he stuck to his guns, not a good political move (which also bodes badly if he becomes president).
Yeah right, I can see that wetback swimming the Rio Grande and thinking “my future kids are going to get instate college tuition when they are born in Texas”!
I am sorry but I don't think so!
““a magnet to Texas”
Yeah right, I can see that wetback swimming the Rio Grande and thinking “my future kids are going to get instate college tuition when they are born in Texas”!
I am sorry but I don’t think so! “
LOL. You don’t know much about Illegals if that’s your picture of them.
I have watched them cross the river and walk across our pasture. I have given them a bag of cookies and had them fall on their knees and bless me. I have watched them walk across the bridge and keep on going. I have watched them lay down under a bush and give birth to a new infant Texan. Have you?
“I have watched them cross the river and walk across our pasture. I have given them a bag of cookies and had them fall on their knees and bless me. I have watched them walk across the bridge and keep on going. I have watched them lay down under a bush and give birth to a new infant Texan. Have you?”
So you’ve watched a subset of them at one location. Better than nothing, but I’ve read enough reports to know how they’re smuggled in and how well-organized it has become.
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. You’re more than welcome to help Perry make this state a magnet for Illegals (don’t forget no E-Verify, Sanctuary Cities, and God knows what else), but I really can’t support that.
Several different locations Bob. I know they are smuggled in in trucks, probably after they get themselves across the river. Anyone who has watched the news has seen that. I have seen them carrying bundles on the top of their heads as they head to the train tracks. We had a little cabin deep in the hill country where they would break in and sleep in our beds and eat our food when we weren’t there. They didn’t get there by truck with a coyote. My husband found the skull of one of them that didn’t make it.
Look, I don’t want them here either but until the federal government does something about it, they are here.
This was a fine speech my Tom McClintock.
He was sending a warning to the rest of the country.
There is only one glaring missing element that I find troubling as it would appear to be a deliberate avoidance. I am hoping one of you can explain it.
Tom lauds in the speech the GOP wins since the last election cycle. So why did he not salute the TEA party movement in any way given how its sentiments drove that win? He gave not hint of the TEA party in anyway.
McClintock BTTT
“Look, I don’t want them here either but until the federal government does something about it, they are here.”
I hear you. But you’re still dealing with half the problem, which is the time that they’re on the run...and yes, a Fence would work great, along with boots and sensors.
But the other half is the demographic end of it...as they settle in, and get comfortable, they vote. If they didn’t vote, we wouldn’t have bi-lingual ballots now, since citizens are REQUIRED to show a working capability of English. We’re 55/45 Republican now. In one generation, with more and more illegals settling in here, we’ll flip, and the state will be Democrat. I’d hate to see that...and yes, a governor who’s capable of understanding that will act on it, as what happened in Arizona.
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