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Renegades cut off beards in Amish feud
TimesReporter ^ | 10/06/2011 | Staff and wire

Posted on 10/07/2011 5:25:18 AM PDT by Rannug

A group of religious castoffs has been attacking fellow Amish, cutting off their hair and beards in an apparent feud over spiritual differences, including incidents in Holmes and Carroll counties.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesreporter.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: amish; beard; cutting; napl; realamishterrorism; religion
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To: Rannug

21 posted on 10/07/2011 6:05:10 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: tickmeister
Holmes County (one of the jurisdictions mentioned in the article) has a population of 39,000 of whom more than 20,000 are Amish.

Whenever endogamous, highly structured groups reach a level of critical mass to the point that they almost never have to deal with outsiders, they begin to lose grasp with basic social norms.

This can apply to religious groups like the Old Order Amish, the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints, the Satmar Hasidim, the Priestly Society of St. Pius V - but it can also apply to staunchly atheist organizations like the Socialist Workers Party USA, the NCLC, the Insititute for Objectivist Studies, Reichian organizations, etc.

This has more to do with narcissism than theism.

22 posted on 10/07/2011 6:07:18 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ropin71

23 posted on 10/07/2011 6:08:48 AM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: knarf
If the "cast-off" did this deed, then they are not Amish

"Amish" is a word used to describe a variety of different Mennonite Anabaptist groups.

There are Old Order, New Order, Beachy, Schwartzenruberite and others. These beardcutters may simply be a new group.

Just because the Amish generally profess antimilitarism does not mean that they are above sectarian violence, which has a rich tradition among Anabaptists.

24 posted on 10/07/2011 6:18:02 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I’m an Anabaptist ... you’re wrong.


25 posted on 10/07/2011 6:19:48 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Rannug

The article states, “Motives may be related to unspecified religious differences involving 18 Amish families, 17 of them related, who have drawn previous attention from law enforcement”.

Hatfield and McCoys.... Amish style?!!


26 posted on 10/07/2011 6:31:05 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: knarf
I’m an Anabaptist

Ok.

you’re wrong

Not really.

Thomas Muentzer was one of the original lights of the Anabaptist movement, and he led a bloody rebellion in Thuringia against the local authorities.

The Anabaptist leader John of Leyden led an assault on the town of Muenster and declared himself King, exiling and even killing those who disagreed with his beliefs.

Hendrik Of Nicholis - another prominent Anabaptist theologian - was a supporter and participant in the Muenster regime.

After the Bocholt conference, the Anabaptist movement split, with one-third led by Jan von Batenberg advocating violence against unbelievers, one-third following David Joris' advocacy of assimilating into the the larger world and one-third following Menno Simons who advocated peaceful retreat from society.

Batenberg's followers - all devout Anabaptists - became 16th century terrorists, striking at the infidels and killing and robbing them.

Batenberg's disciple Cornelius Appelman, who took over the movement after Batenberg's death, continued this policy. Appelman killed his own wife and daughter when they adopted what he beleived to be heretical views.

Johan Willemsz was another incredibly violent Anabaptist leader of that time.

Historians of the Radical reformation like Jansma have documented how the more violent Anabaptists like the Batenbergers and Willemszites, when heat from the authorities against them became too intense, hid among the Mennonites until the coast was clear or the mennonites were able to secretly transport them to other jurisdictions.

27 posted on 10/07/2011 6:40:31 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
We have several Mennonite/Amish groups hereabouts. Most seem to be in the vegetable or livestock business. Some don't drive cars, others drive but with all the chrome blacked out with shoe polish.
They all shop at Wal Mart.
28 posted on 10/07/2011 7:43:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Morgana; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
What's next - drive-by shunnings?


29 posted on 10/07/2011 7:55:33 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

There are also Bruderhof Mennonites and Hutterites as well - similar groups, but not identical.


30 posted on 10/07/2011 8:02:39 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: all the best
We here at FR were never fooled by the Amish. We knew their rowdy ways.

I've been saying it for years! I've never trusted those b@stards and their voodoo fireplaces! The whole thing just gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees!

31 posted on 10/07/2011 8:06:19 AM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared!)
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To: wideawake

A nearby Anabaptist family raises “free range” turkeys. We have bought one for Thanksgiving almost every year. These birds taste better than the puffed up, oil injected grocery store variety.


32 posted on 10/07/2011 8:07:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Slings and Arrows
"What's next - drive-by shunnings?"

Almost - just almost - lost the keyboard over that one. Note to me - never drink anything while reading on FR, you never know what will jump up and get you. : )

33 posted on 10/07/2011 8:18:19 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: greatplains

Ain’t it great?


34 posted on 10/07/2011 9:03:32 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: txroadkill

We here at FR were never fooled by the Amish. We knew their rowdy ways.

I’ve been saying it for years! I’ve never trusted those b@stards and their voodoo fireplaces! The whole thing just gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees!
..........
would this be because they dress like Lubavitchers? Just curious


35 posted on 10/07/2011 10:01:12 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Rannug

Amish Electric Chair

36 posted on 10/07/2011 10:09:47 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

Shouldn’t there be a lightning rod on there?


37 posted on 10/07/2011 10:11:13 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (I can only be series in a parallel universe.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Seven or eight years ago, I visited a friend in Wisconsin, and the hot gossip of the day was an Amish man who got arrested for drunk driving his buggy. The horse was placed in foster care temporarily.

So all this mayhem doesn't surprise me one bit!
38 posted on 10/07/2011 10:42:08 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: wideawake

Agreed. Humans simply tend to behave badly. One argument in support of religion in general is that people would behave in worse ways without it. I don’t think that argument holds water.


39 posted on 10/07/2011 11:26:55 AM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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40 posted on 10/07/2011 11:30:36 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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