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To: mardi59
As for Obama, Rush is right. He wants an arab spring here, a bloody one

I'd like to know how he thinks it will work out for him. Think about it...so [union] police are going to be called in by big city [Democrat] mayors to clear out the protesters and the violence breaks out. That's left on left violence...how is that an uprising? It's not like they are camped out in Boise or Charleston or Biloxi protesting against conservatives.

The Tea Party isn't there counter-protesting, everyone is just sitting back and enjoying the lunatic show. If anyone acts to move them it'll be another leftist or liberal in left-wing city.

I have no idea what Obama thinks he can gain from this.

10 posted on 10/06/2011 3:30:17 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Well, there is damage they can do to property and innocent people. These mobs don’t ask questions, they just riot.

If they are doing the dummy-n-chiefs bidding and the unions are involved, this can and will get very ugly. I have a feeling the polls are going to look like this in 2012.


15 posted on 10/06/2011 3:37:10 PM PDT by mardi59 (Time to turn off the tv so I don't break it..)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
everyone is just sitting back and enjoying the lunatic show. If anyone acts to move them it'll be another leftist or liberal in left-wing city.

Well said. Back in the 60s it was radicals vs. mainstream society.

Now it's libtards vs. libtards.

I'm enjoying it also.

16 posted on 10/06/2011 3:38:31 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

It’s like a one-legged man in an A$$ kicking contest, for sure. I actually think this is good, because it shows the American people (and I do not consider Obumba and his commie clan Americans) who their enemies are!


17 posted on 10/06/2011 3:39:25 PM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I don’t have the link for it right now, but Yuri Bezmenov had an interview where he described the communist steps for subverting and taking over a nation. I’ll give some excerpts from the transcript I typed before the 2008 election:

“It’s a great brain-washing process, which goes very slow and is divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from fifteen to twenty years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of, of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism, Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students, without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism...

Most of the activity of the department was to compile huge amount, volume of information on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion. Publishers, editors, journalists, uh, actors, educationalists, professors of political science, members of Pariament uh, of pre, representatives of business circles. Most of these people were divided roughly in 2 groups: Those who would toe the Soviet foreign policy. They would be promoted to the positions of power through media and public opinion manipulation. Those who refused the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated or executed physically come revolution... The useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet socialist or communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point, “Never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher.”

This was my instruction. Try to get into large circulation, established, conservative media. Rich, filthy rich movie makers. Intellectuals. So-called “academic circles”. Cynical, eccentric people who can look into your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruitable people, people who lack moral principles, who are either too greedy or too, suffer from self-importance. They feel that they matter a lot. This is all the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit...

So the next stage is destabilization. This time subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn’t matter any more. Ths time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation, it’s the, what, what matters is essentials. Economy, foreign relations, defense systems...

The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis...

And after crisis, with the violent change of power, structure, and economy, you have so-called the period of “normalization”. It may last indefinitely. “Normalization” is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ‘68 Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized.”
(End transcript excerpts)

Obama’s people have been destabilizing the foundatons of this country for as long as they have been implementing Cloward-Piven. Two of the planks in that plan were actually implemented specifically by the young lawyer in Chicago, Barack Obama: the motor voter plan to degrade the integrity of the democratic process, and threats to the bankers if they didn’t fill racial quotas by giving out subprime loans. Those two lawyerly projects were the only 2 legal accomplishments Obama had as a lawyer, and they were both critical wounds to the electoral and economic infrastructure which would eventually enable the country to be destabilized to the point it is now. Barack Obama specifically laid the landmines that have allowed for elections to be stolen and the economy to be fragile enough that somebody like Soros could make a run on the bank and wreak havoc on everybody’s financial future.

The whole point of Cloward-Piven was to reach a point where people were ripe to believe that capitalism doesn’t work. And right after the September 2008 run on the bank we heard Chavez and Castro saying that the world should try communism, SINCE CAPITALISM HAD FAILED. We heard Ahmadinejad and Zawahiri saying that SINCE CAPITALISM HAD FAILED, the world should try Islamic finance. We heard George W Bush saying that if TARP wasn’t passed the entire western, capitalist world would collapse. There was definitely a template there, and the terminology used reflected the sources of that run on the bank, IMHO: the communist and Islamist allies of George Soros and his puppet, Barack Obama. Congress declared martial law briefly so they could attempt to pass emergency legislation in response to the “crisis” (which Emanuel says you should never “let go to waste”). They didn’t pass that legislation; it took months for them to pass TARP and still no financial armageddon. The financial armageddon would only come if 500 billion dollars’ worth of payoffs (to primarily foreign, shariah-compliant banks that had contributed to the dems and ACORN) weren’t approved by Congress.

So they didn’t get their full-blown crisis at that point. They got Obama in office, though, so he could further destabilize things - only this time they knew they would have to destabilize right down to the local levels, because the investors themselves weren’t spooked to the point that they ever gave in to riots and downright communist takeover.

So with Obama in office they have had access to destabilize the critical infrastructure: law enforcement (think Eric Holder in charge of all law enforcement to embolden “his people” and arm the drug cartels while making sure that our southern border is and always will be wide open), media, the courts, takeover of entire industries such as auto, energy, farming, and healthcare, military, and accountability (replace honest inspectors general and give all power to unelected, unaccountable “czars” and regulators).

From there it simply becomes a game of agitation, which is what Obama is all about. Squeeze people economically by killing the economy and taxing the people to death, keep law enforcement from enforcing the law and protecting the people while being inundated with both Islamic and druglord terrorists, and when the tinder is good and dry, have your subversive allies (the ACORN, union, communist, etc thugs) light a match. Send a Twitter to start flash mobs, or give the signal to the SEIU etc by having Joe Biden and Jimmy Hoffa Jr use violent rhetoric in the same weekend...

What some of us have said for a while now is that when Obama can no longer hide his crimes against this country, he will have nothing to lose, and that is when we enter really, really dangerous territory. Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Obama’s latest birth certificate forgery, etc are blowing the cover off of Obama and his entire administration. It’s time now for the revolution they’ve been working on for decades. The tinder is dry and now they are planning to light a match and set the place on fire - before any election comes along to take Obama out.

This is an extremely critical time. A group called “Anonymous” hacking to take the New York Stock Exchange off the web (which they say they will do on Oct 10th, IIRC) may be the match they intend to light the place on fire. I really wonder if Oct 10th - or whatever day this thing is supposed to happen on - has any particular significance in the Islamic world.

The protests - like you say - are mostly fringe and would involve leftists against leftists. But if it provides an excuse for Anonymous to light the match, that match will impact the entire country.

Sorry for taking so long to get to your point. I think some of the background is vital for understanding the overall scheme though - if not for you, then for those who don’t understand that background.


34 posted on 10/06/2011 5:40:18 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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