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Cain Says He ‘Would Not Be Comfortable’ As Perry's Running Mate
National Journal ^ | October 6, 2011 | Lindsey Boerma

Posted on 10/06/2011 10:35:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

HOUSTON -- Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Thursday that he would definitely consider an invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s vice president, except if the nominee turns out to be Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Cain, who rocketed to the top tier of the GOP field in several recent polls, was asked by reporters on the campaign trail for his thoughts on a hypothetical invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s No. 2. After offering the obligatory comment that he intends to be the nominee, Cain said, “Quite frankly, based upon Gov. Perry’s position on some issues, I would not be comfortable being his vice presidential nominee.”

Those issues include Perry’s moderate stances on immigration. As governor, Perry supported legislation offering in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, which has become a flash point in his campaign. Cain said, “Issues relative to being soft on the border, issues relative to the whole, you know, tuition for children of illegal aliens. And I haven’t totally gone through all of his positions, but a lot of positions I have questions with.”

Cain, who is black, was critical of Perry after the Washington Post reported Sunday that his family owned a Texas hunting camp once known as “Niggerhead,” a word that was also painted on a rock near the camp’s entrance. Perry has maintained that his father painted over the word as soon as he bought the property in the 1980s. And Cain subsequently said he believed Perry’s explanation.

Of a vice presidential slot in general, Cain said, “I would not say no to being vice president of the United States. But it would depend upon who got the nomination. I will support who gets the nomination. I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it. I could say yes. But it has to be someone who I believe I can complement them in their job by being able to bring my skills to the table.”


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To: Def Conservative
Cain already said he wants Romney.

Got link?

61 posted on 10/06/2011 11:13:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: livius

When you have to start lying about the other candidates in a vain attempt to help your candidate, you have lost the debate.

Glad you like Perry. Lying about Cain does not help your candidate. It makes you look childish and ignorant.


62 posted on 10/06/2011 11:13:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: motoman
I’m not latino, but one thing is for certain. The latino voting block will be a very, very, powerful force in this election. And Rick Perry’s position, albiet a controversial and debatable stance, is the only one that can neuter Obama - tough on border security, but humane on the children of illegals who the fed dumped onto him.

Yeah, a similar approach worked wonders for McCain. Oops, it didn't - and also rendered illegal immigration a non-issue for 2008.

63 posted on 10/06/2011 11:16:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have little use for a candidate whose sole mission appears to be to kneecap Romney’s sole viable opponent.


64 posted on 10/06/2011 11:17:25 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I guess that’s why they were begging Christie to get in and when he didn’t they gave their money to Romney.”

Notice they didn’t start begging Christie to get in until Perry started crashing. (Some were, but it had died down). The establishment knows that Romney flat lines without enough support to push him over the top. The establishment is comfortable with Perry, providing Perry can win, but when they thought different, they panicked. Romney is their man now, like it or not.

Understand that should Perry recover and win, I’ll support him. I’ve avoided jumping onto the anti Perry wagon, but I won’t pretend he isn’t with the Republican establishment.


65 posted on 10/06/2011 11:18:06 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SMARTY
Great President! He's going down hill.

I never hear a more wishy washy statement on why he can't stand Perry.

66 posted on 10/06/2011 11:18:14 AM PDT by duckln
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To: jla

“Of course Cain would feel uncomfortable around a man who won’t buy into his race baiting antics.”

What a bizarre statement...


67 posted on 10/06/2011 11:18:37 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What are Herman Cain&amps positions on immigration?

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Immigration.htm

Hmm so you have no idea of Cain's position on major issues yet you spend all your time posting attacks on him?

That is really inexcusable behavior.

68 posted on 10/06/2011 11:19:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: marty60

From an ‘unnamed source’ no doubt.

Pardon me if I don’t enthusiastically await this news.


69 posted on 10/06/2011 11:20:51 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: dirtboy

An interesting bit of political commentary:

......Further, Cain has not attacked the other candidates or created bad blood in the way that Romney and Perry have gone after each other and burned bridges between them. One possible exception is Cain’s statements regarding Perry. Cain called Perry insensitive because the Texan’s family once leased a property for their hunting camp called “Ni**erhead. And Cain recently criticized his rival’s debate performance and stated that he could not support the Texas governor for the nomination because of his “soft” immigration stance.

In addition, Cain has solid business experience and strong Tea Party credentials, and would balance out a more moderate and establishment presidential nominee such Mitt Romney. And Cain could serve as the Republican attack dog — against a Democratic ticket headed by a black incumbent — and avoid being labeled as a racist.”.......

http://thyblackman.com/2011/10/03/herman-cain-the-vice-president-nod/


70 posted on 10/06/2011 11:21:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Servant of the Cross

Wow, I’m sad to see you have bought this rhetoric too.

Cain has been critical of Romneycare and Romney’s jobs plan.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/herman-cain-hits-romney-health-care-plan

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/herman-cain-and-dick-discuss-whats-wrong-with-romneys-jobs-plan-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/


71 posted on 10/06/2011 11:22:54 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: pallis

IIRC, Cain declared BEFORE Romney. I can’t imagine a stalking horse declaring before the person they’re stalking for.


72 posted on 10/06/2011 11:23:29 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: chilepup

What?!

Where’d you get that?!


73 posted on 10/06/2011 11:23:29 AM PDT by Chasaway
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To: marty60

Would you ping me when you have the story, please?


74 posted on 10/06/2011 11:23:44 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Aw, HELL no!

He din’, did he?


75 posted on 10/06/2011 11:24:20 AM PDT by Chasaway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And again, nothing more than conjecture. I don't see Cain as a spoiler for Mitt. I see Cain as a candidate for himself. The Perry camp is apparently panicking over Cain's rise at their expense, and rather than address the reasons Perry is faltering, they feel compelled to attack the guy eclipsing Perry.

I have concerns about Cain, and I will look into his proposals and issues. One thing I will not give consideration is the slimy attacks of over-the-top Perry supporters who claim Cain is backing Romney. After all, Perry backed Rudy in 2007. Oh, wait, that's right CW - you did too!

76 posted on 10/06/2011 11:26:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"After offering the obligatory comment that he intends to be the nominee, Cain said,"

President Cain sounds soooo much better to me the VP Cain.


77 posted on 10/06/2011 11:26:53 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Please tell me the ways that Herman Cain’s positions in that link about immigration deviate from Rick Perry’s.

I just read it.

How is posting an article about Herman Cain’s remarks, attacking him?

Anyway, if you want to address the question about how Perry and Cain differ on immigration (from your link), let me know.


78 posted on 10/06/2011 11:28:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RockinRight

Yeah, but all the signs were there saying Romney was going to run.


79 posted on 10/06/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Secure the border with more boots on the ground
I do believe we can secure the border with a combination of boots on the ground, technology, and a fence, but we’ve got three other problems. And to get to it, we’ve got to secure the border.

Secondly, let’s promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. We don’t need a new one, we just need to clean up the bureaucracy that’s slowing the process down and discouraging people.

The third thing we need to do, enforce the laws that are there, and the way we do it, empower the states. I believe that the people closest to the problem are the best ones to be able to solve that problem. Empower the states to do what the federal government hasn’t done, can’t do, and won’t do. This is how we solve the entire problem.
Source: 2011 GOP debate in Simi Valley CA at the Reagan Library , Sep 7, 2011

We have a path to citizenship: it’s called legal immigration
Q: When Pres. Obama joked about protecting the borders with alligators and a moat, not only did you embrace the idea, you upped the ante with “a 20-foot barbed wire electrified fence.” Were you serious?

A: America has got to learn how to take a joke. But allow me to give you my real solution to the immigration problem. I happen to believe that is four problems.

Yes, we must secure the border with whatever means necessary.
Enforce the laws that are there.
Promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. We have a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. It’s called legal immigration.
And then, I happen to agree with empowering the states and allow them to deal with that issue. If we work on the right problem, we will be able to solve it.

And in the case of immigration, we’ve got four problems that we need to work on simultaneously. We can have high fences and wide open doors, all at the same time.
Source: Iowa Straw Poll 2011 GOP debate in Ames Iowa , Aug 11, 2011

Not right to sue Arizona for trying to protect themselves
I want to share with you my three guiding principles so you know what type of leader I will be. Three of my guiding principles that have guided my life; guided the decisions I made when I was running companies; and guided my family.

Guiding principle #1: Do the right thing. It was not right to sue the state of Arizona when they were simply trying to protect themselves. You will always be able to count on Herman Cain to do what is right.
Guiding principle #2: We have got to lead this nation from an entitlement society to an empowerment society, by getting government out of the way. We’ve got to empower states to do what states do best: to solve the people’s problems at the state level. Empowerment, not entitlement
Guiding principle #3: It’s not about us. We have to defend the life of the unborn. We must defend those principles that this nation was founded upon.

Source: 2011 Faith and Freedom Conference , Jun 4, 2011

Secure our borders; enforce our laws
Americans have embraced their role as the world’s premier “melting pot,” welcoming immigrants from every corner of the planet. We readily learn about other cultures, customs and beliefs. We appreciate those who are willing to come to this country and mak America a more vibrant and enriched place.

Americans do resent, however, the willingness of some to circumvent our laws and enter our nation illegally. While many, if not most, illegal immigrants are peaceful people simply seeking to provide for their families, some are not. In fact, some are quite dangerous, jeopardizing the safety and well-being of American citizens.

Illegal immigration also puts a tremendous strain on America’s entitlement and health care systems. In fact, several hospitals in the U.S. have declared bankruptcy as a result of the costs of caring for illegal immigrants.

We must secure our borders, enforce our laws and promote the existing path to citizenship.ÿ
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011

Where’s the fence? Not in the Immigration Bill!
The Comprehensive Immigration Bill debated in the Senate last week was dead on arrival. Most regular folks kept screaming, “Where’s the fence?”

The Immigration Bill was supposed to be good compromise legislation. It is just bad legislation with different agendas glued together, while not emphasizing enough of the public’s number one priority - the fence! Not just wire, wood and concrete, but all the technologies we have available to stop the rampant inflow of illegal aliens into this country.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Immigration Bill” , Jun 11, 2007


80 posted on 10/06/2011 11:30:09 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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