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Perry's been justifying his strong support for giving illegal aliens tuition benefits which are denied non-Texan Americans by pointing out that so many Republican legislators voted for it, implying broad support of Texans. But is this really an indication of broad support from Texans, or a demonstration of how thoroughly corrupt and non-responsive the Texas legislature is? This poll shows that these tuition benefits were deeply unpopular; maybe that's why Perry has struggles getting 50% in this deeply red state.

Also of note: Texans also strongly disapprove of Texas' "bilingual education" program. I wonder how many would disapprove of it if it were named for what it really is: "Spanish-only instruction segregated classrooms." To read how bad "bilingual education" is, and how it is responsible for Texas' miserable school ratings, read this report: http://www.texaspolicy.com/pdf/2009-09-RR01-bilingual-rossell.pdf

Vote against the Gore groupie.

1 posted on 10/06/2011 9:04:45 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

so, not only has Rick Perry imploded his campaign to be President, he may also have jeopardized his future viability as Texas Governor. Brilliant!


2 posted on 10/06/2011 9:09:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dangus

It is a matter of time people will want direct referendum and not rely on their reps who could be lobbied, and brought off by the Powers to Be.


3 posted on 10/06/2011 9:09:34 AM PDT by Fee
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To: dangus

Don’t have a heart it seems.


4 posted on 10/06/2011 9:09:50 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (My opinion doesn't really matter until March 13th anyway.)
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To: dangus
This is definitely a Perry headache.

I happen to be a former Texan and a grad of a Texas public university.

But after many years and Texas' skyrocketing tuition (when I went to college, the costs were about $12 per semester hour per semester)--and having some kids who wanted to consider going to Texas...it was unaffordable compared to in-state tuition from my own state.

So, here I am, a Texas expat, a legacy from a Texas college, who cannot get in-state tuition for my law-abiding AMERICAN children. Then he calls me "heartless." Shades of (Laura) Bush saying I was just prejudiced against "brown people" for wanting our borders protected. (I always will believe that the Bush's insolent treatment of conservatives came from the Bush women who are too lazy to clean up after their Scotty dogs and their Springer Spaniels, so they need an army of illegals to clean up after them.)

This had better be overcome, Perry, and a lot of money won't fix it.

Right now, Cain's able.

6 posted on 10/06/2011 9:12:37 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: dangus

A repeal would never get past Speaker Strauss.

Win the Republican Primary for State, Strauss puts six figures in your campaign account. More, if needed.


7 posted on 10/06/2011 9:13:53 AM PDT by ziravan (You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be President...but it helps.)
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To: dangus

The stars at night, are big and bright,
clap clap clap clap
Deep in heartless Texas!


8 posted on 10/06/2011 9:17:12 AM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: dangus

Any idea how many illegals have actually taken advantage of this policy?


9 posted on 10/06/2011 9:17:59 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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Adios Senior Perry!!!!!

That leaves Cain as the ONLY REAL conservative standing.


10 posted on 10/06/2011 9:18:43 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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Nice try.....some bullshit poll from a blog.....really the democrats will be proud of you. Lets get mittens vs zero stat!


14 posted on 10/06/2011 9:35:31 AM PDT by Hogblog
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To: dangus
How about the dozen other states with In-State tuition benefits for illegals?

Has California, Connecticut, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Utah, Washington or Wisconsin changed their mind yet?

15 posted on 10/06/2011 9:40:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: dangus

Why are Texans so heartless?


16 posted on 10/06/2011 9:41:00 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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ALL TALK APPARENTLY NO SUBSTANCE.

IF IT’S SUCH A MAJOR ISSUE WHY ISN’T ON THE NOV.8 BALLOT?

http://www.votexas.org/what.html
Election Outlook: Last day to register to vote is Tuesday, October 11, 2011 What’s on the Nov. 8th Constitutional Amendment Election Ballot
What


What’s on the ballot?
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November 8, 2011 Constitutional Amendment Election
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Seems that at least ONE of these people would get behind a movement to have it on the ballot. OOPs To Late.

Your Hate Perry montra is dead.


19 posted on 10/06/2011 9:57:25 AM PDT by marty60
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To: dangus

How do you prove that you are illegal? What is keeping people from other states from going to Texas or another like minded state and claiming that they are actually illegal when they really aren’t? How does that work?


20 posted on 10/06/2011 9:57:33 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: dangus
As a Texas native, and long time resident, with a son attending the University of Texas at Austin, I have a few thoughts about this issue.

First, academic admission to the top tier colleges in Texas is a challenge. For some of the schools it is arguably as difficult as achieving admission to one of the Ivy League schools.

The admissions requirements alone, tend to reduce the supposed attractiveness of in state tuition for children who are not documented.

Secondly, Texas in-state tuition and out-of-state tuition compare favorably to other schools in the nation. It is certainly cheaper for a student from an Ivy League state to attend college at a top school in Texas than it is for a Texas student to attend an Ivy League college. Data is available here: http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/colleges/

So, Texas is not treating students from other states any differently, and in fact more favorably, than those states treat Texas students.

As for undocumented students. Here are the requirements: a student is allowed to pay in-state tuition if he has attended high school in Texas for 36 consecutive months, has graduated from a Texas high school, and, in the case of an undocumented student, signs an affidavit saying he will apply for legal status as soon as he is legally able to do so.

So what does that mean in practice?

Two examples from my son’s friends might be illustrative.

The first was a young man whose mother was born from American citizen parents living in Canada. She lived in Canada, where she met a Swede. They married and bore a son while living in Canada. The parents divorced, and the mother and son moved to Texas, where she obtained US citizenship.

She applied for citizenship for her son when she was allowed to do so. The application was tied up in the US bureaucracy for years.

The son graduated high school and was accepted for admission to a Texas college, where he was eligible for in-state tuition. He was an “affidavit” student, in fact an illegal alien.

Subsequently, his application for US citizenship was denied. He left Texas and moved to Canada, where he obtained Canadian citizenship. He now is attending college in Canada at a lower cost than the in-state tuition in Texas. So much for the supposed lure of Texas in-state tuition. After graduation, he will apply for work visa in the US, as he wants to return to his family home.

The second young man is the son of a family from Malaysia.

His father was transferred to Texas by a major oil company under a US work permit. They lived in Texas for a number of years, and the son attended public school here.

During the last year of high school, the father was transferred back to Malaysia.

The son elected to complete his high school education here with his classmates, at that point he was an illegal alien.

He met the academic requirements and was accepted by a college in Texas. He applied for a student visa.

He met the residency requirements. While waiting on the student visa, he was an “affidavit student” at a Texas college paying in-state tuition. Subsequently, his student visa was granted and he is now working on a master’s degree. He also will apply for a work visa when that becomes an option.

Interestingly, while I know of the history of these two classmates of my son, I do not know of a single example that those of you from outside Texas must envision when you think of “in-state tuition for illegals.”

My son attended a very large high school in the Houston area, so one would think that among his friends, there should have been an example. There just is not, although many of his friends are from other countries.

So based on our family’s experience, I think that many of the “affidavit” students must have circumstances similar to my son’s friends. That being the case, the current law seems to treat them and the state of Texas fairly.

32 posted on 10/06/2011 10:36:40 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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37 posted on 10/06/2011 11:06:13 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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Now, to be fair, Perry and his fans yap alot about "States Rights!!!" They never talk about the right of invididual citizens. In fact, they seem to ignore that part of the 10th amendment. Hmmm.
42 posted on 10/06/2011 11:56:43 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: dangus

Now, to be fair, Perry and his fans yap alot about “States Rights!!!” They never talk about the right of individual citizens. In fact, they seem to ignore that part of the 10th amendment. Hmmm.


43 posted on 10/06/2011 11:57:20 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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