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With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out Romney and Obama?
vanity poll | Oct 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 10/05/2011 5:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

My personal favorites are:

1) Bachmann

2) Cain

3) perry

Cannot get excited about Gingrich or Santorum.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; cainvsunable; conservatives; elections; hermancain; hermanthemagnificent; obama; obama4romney; palin; palin2012; perry; romney; romney4dnc; sarah; sarahpalin
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To: chickpundit
I’m disheartened, as the one who is “not for sale” isn’t running. I am leaning toward Cain at this point, as he strikes me as an honest man. I am concerned about his lack of political experience. He hasn’t been through a trial-by-fire like Sarah.

I parallel you exactly...for the same reasons...

321 posted on 10/05/2011 8:15:55 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would have to support Cain, it’s time we had someone
with executive/business experience in the oval office.


322 posted on 10/05/2011 8:18:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: rintense

I would take Gingrich in a second before Perry. I’d take Romney before Perry.

One would expect that Palin’s supporters would go to Cain, Bachmann and Paul. Right now, because Cain is doing well, I would expect many of Palin’s supporters to support Cain, and then see how he does. When he starts answering questions again with “I’ll think about that and then answer” or whatever it was he said after every non softball question in the 2nd debate, he’ll lose those people, and those people will look at the other candidates.


323 posted on 10/05/2011 8:22:22 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Beelzebubba

Perry does have money. Yes, Perry is the worst. I’d say worse than Romney. But he does have money to spend. So, that’s a factor.


324 posted on 10/05/2011 8:24:06 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Jim Robinson
1) Cain

2) Bachmann

3) Wilderness Outfitters

325 posted on 10/05/2011 8:28:57 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Jim Robinson

Someone said way up above in this thread “I just can’t change horse’s that fast”. I agree.

I was all in on Sarah. Now?

NO WAY to Mitt. Just NO FREEPIN’ WAY! As a voter, my single biggest issue is the 2A. End of story. Also, on many other issues Romney just doesn’t came remotely close to passing the smell test.

Ron Paul???? A freeper would have be certifiable to even CONSIDER voting for this a$$clown. Ron Paul/Dennis the Menace 2012. Yep. Just the ticket we need.

Newt? He has so much baggage he should apply at United Airlines. Global Warming?? Good grief, Newt.

MB? Although I like her message, she has put her foot in her mouth far too often. Her support has weakened to around Ron Paul levels. I think her campaign is not far from the end. I also think that she would be unelectable in a general election vs. Barry.

Rick? Again, his overall message seems ok, but seems to have lost a lot of traction in the debates. And he too is probably a very, very long shot in a general election vs. Barry. Probably not far behind (or even a bit ahead) of MB in getting out of the race.

Perry?????? Not a chance. Ever. My son happens to be a Border Patrol agent currently stationed on the Texas/Mexico boarder. Let’s see. We’ve got the current Obambi administration (via F&F) shipping enough AK’s to the Mexican drug cartel’s to arm a small army. There sits our son, doing his duty of patrolling that shathole of a border day after day, trying to stop that poison from entering this country, armed with... His duty issue .40S&W H-K handgun! Seems like a fair fight. Then comes mushmouth Perry who states he doesn’t want any border fences and anyone who thinks otherwise is “heartless”. Rick Perry couldn’t get my vote if he ran un-opposed.

Cain? I like his message very much (as it seems a lot of freepers do). If he can get the nomination, he will certainly have my vote. But I am not sold for two reasons. Experience and electablity. After all the fuss the GOP raised last election about Obama’s lack of credentials, do you think that there is no way the LMSM is not going to point this out daily about Cain? Also, the few libs I do know say that would more than welcome a Cain-Barry general election. Still, he has the best message of those remaining, and again, gets my vote in a general election.

As a Palin supporter, I am not really sure where I will turn. And, as others have stated, it may well come down to who Sarah endorses. The fate of the GOP may still be in her hands.


326 posted on 10/05/2011 8:30:09 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: Jim Robinson
I like Cain/Gingrich or Gingrich/Cain. Would still like that ticket if Palin was in the race.

As if it makes any difference.... by the time my state's primary comes round the whole thing will have been settled. :-(

327 posted on 10/05/2011 8:30:54 PM PDT by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: who knows what evil?
Romney = Obama second term.

Romney = Third-party conservative run and the end of the GOP, regardless who wins.

328 posted on 10/05/2011 8:32:35 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Beelzebubba

Yep, the next few debates will tell a lot. We should see some shifting in the poll numbers now that Christie and Palin are definitely not running and the field is pretty much set.


329 posted on 10/05/2011 8:36:39 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Jim Robinson
I like Cain, but he's no politician. And like it or not, we need someone with experience. Washington would eat Cain for breakfast. If we beat Romney at all, it will be because Perry that does it. I know most people on this site can't stand him -- this has been made abundantly, redundantly, and most obnoxiously clear -- and the reasons are the exact reasons he can draw independents and beat Obama like a drum. He's our only hope of beating both Romney and Obama. Cain has no experience in public service whatsoever and is a distraction in these primaries. His inexperience as a politician might sound nice in theory, but he would be a disaster in office because of it.

Bachmann is an amateur that will do nothing but humiliate us. Perry/Rubio 2012.
330 posted on 10/05/2011 8:38:10 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: ken21

Yes, Cain, Bachmann, Perry but not Romney.


331 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:12 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: ri4dc

Do you happen to know when the next debate is?


332 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:28 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Plutarch

Romney 2012 would be just as disastrous as McCain 2008 only worse. Conservatives could not get excited about RINO McCain and they’ll even be more disgusted with abortionist, gay rights pushing, gun-grabbing, global warming advocating, left of Kennedy socialist healthcare pushing, draft-dodging, lying progressive RINO Romney.

At least McCain was a war hero and was pro-life.

Should the GOP go progressive with Romney, the GOP will get what it will then deserve. A sound thrashing. And then it’ll probably go belly up for lack of support.

GOP, RIP. Goodbye and good riddance. Long live the next conservative party!!


333 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Domestic Church

yes.

if romney’s the candidate, i’m not voting.

i voted for two bush rinos.

not again.


334 posted on 10/05/2011 8:49:16 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: DRey

Rubio also made an announcement today that he won’t accept VP. So that’s Christie, Palin, Rubio out of the mix. I can’t believe anyone is still considering Bachmann, or that she will survive to the IA caucuses, or be chosen for the VP slot.

As of now, I like Cain and Perry. Wish (as I’m sure he does) Perry had never made that unfortunate remark in the last debate, but think he can survive it if he strengthens his debating skills. Now at least he won’t be the ONLY target at future debates. He also has to clarify that because he endorses the in-state tuition for ‘undocumented’ students, that does NOT mean he’s ‘open borders.’ Some folks aren’t big on picking up subtlety. Cain’s made a few boneheaded comments, too. So that will all even out over time.

I’m wondering if Newt has adequately rehabilitated his reputation to be considered for VP? Everyone, right or left, acknowledges the guy is brilliant; his grasp of history and big issues, and how they converge into policy, is amazing. I don’t see him getting the nomination, but would be a fascinating VP.

Interesting times ahead.


335 posted on 10/05/2011 8:50:29 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain!! All aboard the Cain train!


336 posted on 10/05/2011 8:50:54 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: Jim Robinson
"With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out both Romney and Obama?"

Based on some of your comments on this thread, I believe you were actually asking a deeper question than who has best chance of winning the "Republican" nomination. It really is a question of which "conservative" has the best shot of knocking out both Romney and Obama in a general election.

JimRob you have in fact asked the crucial question in this election, which gets to the survival of a two-party system, if both parties have candidates that represent the same values.

Given that perspective, I suspect that many who have responded above might re-consider their suggestions.

I know I would certainly have to give it considerable thought if we are talking about who would be the most likely to win in a three-way race.

337 posted on 10/05/2011 8:56:02 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Jim Robinson
"With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out Romney and Obama?"

Based on some of your comments on this thread, I believe you were actually asking a deeper question than who has best chance of winning the "Republican" nomination. It really is a question of which "conservative" has the best shot of knocking out both Romney and Obama in a general election.

JimRob you have in fact asked the crucial question in this election, which gets to the survival of a two-party system, if both parties have candidates that represent the same values.

Given that perspective, I suspect that many who have responded above might re-consider their suggestions.

I know I would certainly have to give it considerable thought if we are talking about who would be the most likely to win in a three-way race.

338 posted on 10/05/2011 8:57:01 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: BootsOfEscaping

Cain on the View:
http://youtu.be/Vob-aM2W270


339 posted on 10/05/2011 8:58:24 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: Jim Robinson

“I’d like to shutter HHS.”

Getting rid of the EPA should be priority #1.

No other agency has the power to do the damage to America that they are currently doing.

If the EPA cannot be abolished, it can still be emasculated. And this can be done without the stroke of congressional pens. All it takes is an “executive with attitude”, so to speak.

Just sayin’...


340 posted on 10/05/2011 9:00:34 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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