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Holder lied to Congress about Fast and Furious
American Thinker ^ | October 3, 2011 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/03/2011 9:46:10 PM PDT by This Just In

October 3, 2011 Holder lied to Congress about Fast and Furious Thomas Lifson

Oops! Documents just unearthed show that the attorney general of the United States lied to Congress about when he first knew of the scandalous Operation Fast and Furious. Misstatements of fact by senior government officials under oath can be treated very severely. Remember Scooter Libby? He recalled the date of a meeting to the FBI differently than did others, and was convicted of a felony.

Doug Ross of Director Blue has an excellent summary, under the catchy title "Holder Lied, People Died." Unlike the case of Scooter Libby, over which the Left had fits, 2 federal agents and at least 200 Mexicans have been killed by guns obtained by drug gangs under the Fast and Furious program.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker
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The U.S. gov. arming our enemies to battle the U.S. It's rather interesting to me that these arms sales occurred in good old Arizona, Gov. Jan Brewer turf.
1 posted on 10/03/2011 9:46:14 PM PDT by This Just In
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The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.


2 posted on 10/03/2011 9:50:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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And Congress and the Senate will demand NOTHING...


3 posted on 10/03/2011 9:51:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Did Hitler protect Himmler?


4 posted on 10/03/2011 10:10:57 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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Isn’t it indeed fascinating why these gangsters in the White House didn’t want Arizona to enforce its immigration laws? The pieces of the puzzle are starting to fall into place.


5 posted on 10/03/2011 10:12:06 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: bergmeid

Indeed.


6 posted on 10/03/2011 10:16:23 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: My Favorite Headache; bergmeid

The fat lady isn’t singing yet. Remain vigilant.


7 posted on 10/03/2011 10:18:28 PM PDT by This Just In
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“Misstatements of fact “

They were friggen LIES!

13 steps and a short drop is what these bastards deserve.


8 posted on 10/03/2011 10:30:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: This Just In; satan; bergmeid; Gator113; PGalt; My Favorite Headache
For those who don't want to wade through two or more layers of links to get to the actual story, let me go beyond the blog post quoted here.
From the article behind the thread AFT Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010

On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."

Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious.

Read the new documentsRead the July 5, 2010 memo

Read the "It's a tricky case" email

Read the memo to AG Holder from Asst. AG Lanny A. Breuer

The documents came from the head of the National Drug Intelligence Center and Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer.


Well, I'm not sure, but I think Holder missed his "best guess" by at least 10 months.

Why does the word "Solyndra" get mentioned about ten times as often as the words "operation fast and furious" on most major news sites. CBS News has been good in covering this, but most other Party Propaganda Ministry outlets are focused instead on Solyndra. Cynics (myself included) wonder if the administration has told their friends in the Propaganda Ministry to use Solyndra as a diversion to keep the focus off Operation fast and furious.

9 posted on 10/03/2011 10:41:59 PM PDT by ¢ommon ¢ents ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: Gator113

Fake, but accurate.


10 posted on 10/03/2011 10:43:31 PM PDT by This Just In
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Hat Tip: http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/


11 posted on 10/03/2011 10:48:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama/Rangel/Pelosi Code of Ethics: DonÂ’t do as I do. Do as I say.)
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Marxism can be defined as the “Big Lie”. It is all about deception.....always was and always will be. Truth is needed-—but we need a free press and government out of schools.


12 posted on 10/03/2011 10:49:27 PM PDT by savagesusie
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public education, or in other words, public institutions of indoctrination must be eliminated.

Read each goal carefully:

Communist Goals (1963)

Documention below

Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


13 posted on 10/03/2011 10:52:48 PM PDT by This Just In
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Great Book....That and Witness by Whittaker Chambers, clued me in big time in the 90’s!

The Closing of the American Mind explains the philosophy and paradigm shift—from the Christian Paradigm to the atheist/Marxist one we are now witnessing with the removal of DADT, etc. They are replacing God—destroying our “Natural Rights” under God and installing Barney Frank as the decider of Right Reason according to unNature....such a barf idea to feed to the children and for “civil” societies.


14 posted on 10/03/2011 11:02:05 PM PDT by savagesusie
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We own both Allan Bloom’s book as well as The Naked Communist by Skousen. These books should be in every home library, and required reading in private education.


15 posted on 10/03/2011 11:09:45 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

FOR REFERENCE:

DAVID CODREA'S PROJECT GUNWALKER

A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Six

FOX VIDEOS

CNN VIDEOS

CBS VIDEOS

CBS Newly-released White House documents (pdf)

DRUDGEWATCH
(updated daily)

Input needed. Have now started a new ping list called BORDER WARS since so many of these stories are starting to intersect and overlap. I would like to keep the Gunwalker threads separate. Let me know if you want on the Border Wars list. It will NOT be the same as Gunwalker, though they might overlap occasionally. Please ping me to any articles you think fit in this catagory. Thank you.


DO IT!

16 posted on 10/04/2011 12:01:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: LucyT; All

FYI

Here are NEW videos:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2787321/posts
NEW INFO

Fox Video
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1198190674001/new-document-sheds-light-on-fast-and-furious/?playlist_id=86858

I waited to check if these weren’t the old GUNRUNNER speeches. They’re not.

CBS Video
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7383343n


17 posted on 10/04/2011 12:03:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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What’s the title of Allen Bloom’s book?


18 posted on 10/04/2011 12:14:01 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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Holder lied to Congress about Fast and Furious

Article, and then # 17 for update.

19 posted on 10/04/2011 1:52:12 AM PDT by LucyT
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Lied?
Really?
Like nobody saw this coming. /s


20 posted on 10/04/2011 3:50:15 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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