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The Stock Market Smells Deflation
TMO ^ | 10-2-2011 | Clif Droke

Posted on 10/02/2011 4:05:19 PM PDT by blam

The Stock Market Smells Deflation

Stock-Markets / Stock Markets 2011
Oct 02, 2011 - 11:06 AM
By: Clif Droke

In previous commentaries we've talked about how the 6-year cycle is scheduled to peak around Oct. 1. That now appears to be all but certain following the last few trading sessions. Although the cycle has a 1-2 week standard deviation (plus or minus), it appears that it peaked on schedule last week and that the stock market has lost the last remaining cyclical support it had throughout most of September.

Interestingly, it was the commodity stocks that performed the strongest in the last cyclical bull market from late 2008/early 2009 until earlier this year. But in the last few months these stocks have been under heavy distribution and have lately led the way lower for the broad market. The gold/silver stocks took a big hit earlier this month as you can see in the chart of the XAU Gold Silver Index shown here.

The oil and gas stocks haven't fared much better and still haven't confirmed a bottom. Even the gasoline futures price is showing signs of weakness and is on its way to giving back virtually all the gains it made since the Federal Reserve's QE2 monetary easing program began last fall. While this would be beneficial for everyone (except the oil companies), it underscores an important point that I'll be making in tonight's report, namely that deflation is starting to rear its ugly head again.

Looking at the list of stocks on the NYSE new 52-week lows list on Friday you will see a conspicuously high number of companies who either mine, explore or manufacture commodities or else service commodity related industries: Agrium (AGU), Alcoa (AA), Apache (APA), Ashland (ASH), DuPont (DD), Dow Chemical (DOW), Forest Oil (FST), Franco-Nevada (FNV), Hecla Mining (HL), National Fuel Gas (NFG), 3M (MMM), Potash of Saskatchewan (POT), Rio Tinto (RIO) and Teck Resources (TCK) just to give you an idea. This is a classic collection of industrial and hard asset related companies and many of these stocks have built up a tremendous amount of downside momentum in recent weeks and months. Never mind the near term stock market outlook, this doesn't speak well at all about the global economic outlook.

Throughout the year we've read story after story in the business and financial press about how so many U.S. based companies had decided to focus their energies on growing their business in the emerging markets overseas. Well it looks like those high hopes will have to be put on hold as the overseas markets are slowing down and will soon be entering an economic slowdown on par with the one the U.S. is currently suffering.

The darling of the emerging markets crowd is China and it has become an article of faith that China will someday soon eclipse the U.S. as the world's leading economic superpower. That day will have to wait as China's stock market continues to spiral lower, drastically underperforming the U.S. equities market. Keep in mind that the stock market is a barometer of future business conditions since it discounts corporate earnings 6-9 months in advance and is a reflection of where the economy is headed.

To illustrate this, below is a chart of the China 25 Index Fund ETF (FXI) in relation to the S&P 500 Index (SPX). China has been in a bear market since its stock market peaked last November. The country is suffering from a glut of commercial and residential real estate and unnecessary public works thanks to a massive stimulus on the part of China's Communist Party after the credit crisis of 2008.

China's financial sector is in major decline and already we're seeing a corresponding decline in demand for the commodities which fueled the country's mega boom. This diminishing appetite for commodities will continue as we approach the 60-year Grand Super Cycle bottom in 2014.

Meanwhile on the home front, the peaking of the 6-year cycle has taken away the last remaining cyclical pillar of support for the artificial, Fed-induced inflation of the past couple of years. Fed chief Bernanke has made no imminent plans for another round of financial stimulus. The Fed's latest gambit to revive the U.S. economy has been dubbed "Operation Twist" and involves nothing more than swapping short-term Treasuries for longer dated ones. This will register little more than a blip on the economic radar screen and will do nothing to increase aggregate demand in the U.S. economy. The Fed is likely underestimating the degree to which deflation will ravage the economy as we head closer to the long-term cycle bottom. Each passing year beginning with 2012 should bring a greater degree of deflation and it's doubtful either the Fed or the U.S. government can do anything to stop it.

It has been said that avalanches can start with insignificant snowballs rolling down the hill. In a similar vein economic collapse typically begins with financial market weakness, which tends to be overlooked by economists. While economists focus on GDP and other "big picture" lagging indicators, the real action takes place at or just below the economic surface in the financial market, which discounts economic activity by several months in advance.

As important as the commodity related companies have become in recent years, when there is as much weakness in the commodity company stocks as we're seeing right now it should give economists pause for thought. The message that the recent commodity stock liquidation is sending is that deflation is coming. Instead of discussing constructive ways of dealing with this problem, Congress is debating the merits of a potential tax increase on Americans - a policy which can only exacerbate the negative impact that deflation will have on the economy. The Fed meanwhile is whistling past the proverbial graveyard in a meager attempt at keeping the interest rate low. Both the Fed and the Congress will be taken by surprise when deflation descends with its full force and fury in the next several months.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: beprepared; bhoeconomy; commodities; deflation; dollar; dollarcollapse; economy; getreadyhereitcomes; markets; obamaeconomy; obamanomics; obamasdepression; preparedness; preparenow; prepperping; survivalping
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Up until about four weeks ago, most of the articles were predicting high inflation and even hyperinflation.

Deflationary Depression And The Purging To Come

1 posted on 10/02/2011 4:05:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

deflation bump


2 posted on 10/02/2011 4:13:15 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: Southack; Mariner
Southack and Mariner are two FReepers who have (all along) been predicting deflationary times ahead. So....

When will we get the next stimulus?
Before the end of the year?

Is the stimulus 'jig' up and time for us to 'take our medicine.'?

Down, down down?

3 posted on 10/02/2011 4:13:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

supplysideforum predicted deflation for a while now


4 posted on 10/02/2011 4:15:42 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: blam

And, what does deflation mean to us on a personal, household level? What should we expect to see? Anything we can/should do now?


5 posted on 10/02/2011 4:18:33 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: blam

The main trend since 2008 has been highly deflationary as debt which can’t get repaid must get written off and leaves the money supply. But governments have been adding inflationary stimulus to the economy, to try to keep it all propped up. What is happening now is that the stimulus from QE2 is ending, so the deflationary headwinds are taking over.


6 posted on 10/02/2011 4:19:14 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Huck

Deflation?

How is that possible?

With all the extra money being pumped into the economy via QE I, QE II and now soon-to-be-announced, QE III, we shall be AFLOAT in Monopoly money.

Or will the Fed call it all back in, and never allow it into circulation?

Where’s my cheese? Who moved it?


7 posted on 10/02/2011 4:19:44 PM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: blam
Is the stimulus 'jig' up and time for us to 'take our medicine.'?

Not by the hair of a politicians chinny, chin, chin!

8 posted on 10/02/2011 4:20:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SuzyQue

Deflation in salary, and assets like houses, cars, etc). In other words things that you receive or own.

Inflation in Gas, food, energy, things that you pay for.

It’s a two-fer!

You can thank Ben Bernanke, and Obama for reappointing the guy who said there was no housing bubble in 2007.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 4:22:33 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: alloysteel
If we were living in a time of prosperity, the money created by the Fed would have set off hyperinflation by now. If we were living in a time of minimal growth, we would see stagflation.

But we're in a depression where no one has pricing power anymore, and that means the money created by pumping is never deployed effectively. That's why we still see deflation. This is why the Fed has no interest in ending the depression but is keeping it going. If it ended, we'd see dollar collapse and hyperinflation.

10 posted on 10/02/2011 4:23:49 PM PDT by Publius
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To: blam

Deflationary Depression in America: The Double Dip Economic Recession

http://www.prisonplanet.com/deflationary-depression-in-america-the-double-dip-economic-recession.html


11 posted on 10/02/2011 4:27:49 PM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: delapaz

Deflation in salary, and assets like houses, cars, etc). In other words things that you receive or own.
Inflation in Gas, food, energy, things that you pay for.


Bingo!


12 posted on 10/02/2011 4:28:20 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: delapaz

And again, what is the best thing to do that is possible to do with the average household.


13 posted on 10/02/2011 4:29:28 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: blam

Oh Nooooossss!

Quick, sell all your gold and silver before it becomes worthless!


14 posted on 10/02/2011 4:29:46 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: blam

Wheat,Corn,Rice,Pork, and Poultry continue to trend up


15 posted on 10/02/2011 4:31:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Walkingfeather

Pray every day.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 4:33:08 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blam
Twelve Shocking Quotes From Insiders About The Horrific Economic Crisis That Is Almost Here
17 posted on 10/02/2011 4:34:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: delapaz

That is what I see.


18 posted on 10/02/2011 4:36:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EBH
Yup. Posted here on FR June 8, 2011:

Deflationary Depression In America: The Double Dip Economic Recession

19 posted on 10/02/2011 4:38:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Have you read either The Great Reckoning: Protecting Yourself in the Coming Depression or Blood in the Streets by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg?

Both skeered me pretty good way back when they were first printed. But, then the economy seemed to get better and better and their impact on me lessened.

Now, with the 'success' of obamanomics, it looks like it's time to re-read them both and prepare for the worst.

20 posted on 10/02/2011 4:43:28 PM PDT by GBA (The Constitution and conservatism must win in 2012!)
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