Posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
DENVER (AP) — Charles Palmer is a hardy 71-year-old former Marine and Vietnam veteran who trains cockatiels to say "Semper Fi" and "Whatcha doin', man?" He also loves fruit — and especially melon for lunch. "He's never one to get sick," said his wife, Tammie. The Colorado Springs man ate a cantaloupe that was purchased in mid-August, his wife said. Within several days, he was overcome by an excruciating headache. The next morning he was extremely weak and gripped by dry heaves, his wife recalled. "I started slapping his face and saying, 'You've got to talk to me,' but he couldn't," she said. She called 911. At the hospital, she said, he was diagnosed with the strain of Listeria blamed for a 19-state outbreak that has killed at least 15 and sickened at least 84.
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Thank you.
I think they are too expensive. ;)
I lost my spleen a couple of years ago to an accident, and now my immune system is somewhat compromised. I personally wouldn't eat those salads without a bleach-water soak and rinse.
/johnny
About fifteen years ago, a group of hippies started an organic apple juice co-op. Their product was found to be contaminated with e-coli.
Everyone with more than two brain cells wondered at this because most e-coli outbreaks occur in meat due to improper slaughtering or handling.
The eneMedia tried to bury the fact that the wonderfully wise and fragrant nature nuts were picking up apples from the ground that had rested in...fertilizer. Then they weren't properly washed before squeezing, bottling and landing on your family's kitchen table.
A good intention coupled with ignorance leads to very bad consequences.
Pigs and chickens and longhorns for now. Raised sheep (200 head) and goats 175+ head), geese, ducks and guineas. A hog WILL eat anything but I was talking about a hog raised in a pen. not a feral hog nor one that someone has let loose nor one that some farmer want to be raises.
Good to hear from you, Jem. Long time, no chat.
/johnny
I thought washing apples (with organic soap if not bleach) and pasteurizing juice was SOP. Not for these hippies, huh.
Some savvy manure handlers use solar heat to sterilize the manure instead of using it straight from the animal.
I’ve missed you, too.
Life has been rough lately. The worst so far is that a good friend and colleague died in plane crash a week ago Thursday.
do you think that eating packaged pre-washed lettuce is ok to eat without washing?
/johnny
/johnny
It’s not propaganda. Just because a human will not eat rejected food (and there are those that will) a REAL hog farmer will pick through the produce. They feed their hogs good food because they do not want to raise a hog that is sickly or have it come back on them. Not saying that some do feed crap but it is not what a real farmer does. Same for butchering the animals. A real farmer/rancher does not want to cause the animal much suffering when it is put down. An animal that is scared to death before it’s killed has enzymes(?) in the meat that makes it tough as all get out.
I guess we are talking about different things here. I am talking about farmers not commercial hog raisers but then again a commercial hog raiser pens his hogs on concrete which is washed into a vat sort of like a septic tank. But I have no problem with putting manure of any kind EXCEPT human on a garden but it HAS to be old manure. You can not put fresh manure on a garden. The urine in it will burn the plants whether it is chicken or hogs. It’s no different than composting veggies. It has to be composted.
Well there you go. We had moved to Missouri after my husband retired and lived there for about 10 years (had to move back after we started getting grandbabies) The Amish and Mennonite farms are not the cleanest places. I am talking dairies here. Not sure how they get by except they must not sell their milk or have some exception from the gubmint. Long years ago all the people fed their hogs (and other stock) stuff that the majority of farmers/ranchers will not today. My father in law (old German guy) burned the needles/stickers off of cactus and fed his cattle. Not nutrition in that but kept their bellies full. But, IMO, using manure of any kind and (hate it though I do) that includes human manure on a garden does not transfer to a vegetable. The manure HAS to be composted/old to keep from burning the plants. I think the listeria and e coli crap that is happening is from the workers using the “bathroom” in the field and not washing their hands - just like in Mexico you’re not to eat the fresh fruit off of a street vendor (without washing it of course) AND the workers that gather the veggies and the handling after picking. Every single farmer/rancher that we know and have known through the years does not use sour produce to feed their stock. Not sure why an Amish/Mennonite would use sour produce. Maybe they do pick through it or maybe not. Saw one episode of Dirty jobs where they didn’t. nasty.
I am not saying you shouldn’t eat pork if that is what you want to do at all or feel like you should do. People have been eating pork for hundreds - hundreds of years and only in this modern time have we been “inundated” with cancers. I believe it’s the crap they put IN the food and the (what I call) fake fertilizers. Manure puts things back in the soil that was there before gardening depleted it. The “fake” fertilizers don’t. There is so much that is added to foods today (antibiotics, enhancers etc) that, IMO, this is where all the cancers, food allergies are coming from.
A little story here. When my husband was a teenager, they were preparing to butcher a couple of hogs. They did this every year when it god cold. Made bacon, ham, sausage, and dried sausage (mixed with venison) Opa (what we called him) had shot one hog and got in the pen to cut his throat to bleed him out. The other hog was either pissed off or had smelled the blood. Anyway, he jumped on Opa and was about to do damage - possibly kill him. My husband had to jump in and wrestle the hog off and shoot him as well (before his time). Opa learned his lesson and separated the hogs before killing them.
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