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To: gopheraj
All we know & have supplied to are family run, Mennonite & Hutterite pig farms
112 posted on 10/02/2011 5:27:41 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Well there you go. We had moved to Missouri after my husband retired and lived there for about 10 years (had to move back after we started getting grandbabies) The Amish and Mennonite farms are not the cleanest places. I am talking dairies here. Not sure how they get by except they must not sell their milk or have some exception from the gubmint. Long years ago all the people fed their hogs (and other stock) stuff that the majority of farmers/ranchers will not today. My father in law (old German guy) burned the needles/stickers off of cactus and fed his cattle. Not nutrition in that but kept their bellies full. But, IMO, using manure of any kind and (hate it though I do) that includes human manure on a garden does not transfer to a vegetable. The manure HAS to be composted/old to keep from burning the plants. I think the listeria and e coli crap that is happening is from the workers using the “bathroom” in the field and not washing their hands - just like in Mexico you’re not to eat the fresh fruit off of a street vendor (without washing it of course) AND the workers that gather the veggies and the handling after picking. Every single farmer/rancher that we know and have known through the years does not use sour produce to feed their stock. Not sure why an Amish/Mennonite would use sour produce. Maybe they do pick through it or maybe not. Saw one episode of Dirty jobs where they didn’t. nasty.

I am not saying you shouldn’t eat pork if that is what you want to do at all or feel like you should do. People have been eating pork for hundreds - hundreds of years and only in this modern time have we been “inundated” with cancers. I believe it’s the crap they put IN the food and the (what I call) fake fertilizers. Manure puts things back in the soil that was there before gardening depleted it. The “fake” fertilizers don’t. There is so much that is added to foods today (antibiotics, enhancers etc) that, IMO, this is where all the cancers, food allergies are coming from.

A little story here. When my husband was a teenager, they were preparing to butcher a couple of hogs. They did this every year when it god cold. Made bacon, ham, sausage, and dried sausage (mixed with venison) Opa (what we called him) had shot one hog and got in the pen to cut his throat to bleed him out. The other hog was either pissed off or had smelled the blood. Anyway, he jumped on Opa and was about to do damage - possibly kill him. My husband had to jump in and wrestle the hog off and shoot him as well (before his time). Opa learned his lesson and separated the hogs before killing them.


113 posted on 10/03/2011 4:58:57 AM PDT by gopheraj
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