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New Fast and Furious docs released by White House
CBS News ^ | September 30, 2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 09/30/2011 8:02:50 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

WASHINGTON - Late Friday, the White House turned over new documents in the Congressional investigation into the ATF "Fast and Furious" gunwalking scandal.

The documents show extensive communications between then-ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office Bill Newell - who led Fast and Furious - and then-White House National Security Staffer Kevin O'Reilly. Emails indicate the two also spoke on the phone. Such detailed, direct communications between a local ATF manager in Phoenix and a White House national security staffer has raised interest among Congressional investigators looking into Fast and Furious. Newell has said he and O'Reilly are long time friends.

ATF agents say that in Fast and Furious, their agency allowed thousands of assault rifles and other weapons to be sold to suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels. At least two of the guns turned up at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; billnewell; cantimpeachabarack; fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker; justpeachy; kevinoreilly; peachy; whffdocdump; whfffridaydocdump
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To: Mouton

That didn’t help Dale Stoffel. rhey got him in broad daylight in Baghdad...and stole his laptop with all the info on it. Of course it had nothing to do with THIS...but if they want you gone, you are gone.


61 posted on 10/01/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Emails show Operation Fast and Furious was shared with Obama counterterrorism adviser John Brennan -- and perhaps beyond

Brennan is the same man who didn't know about a massive terror plot in London that was headline news around the world; who said that a 20 percent terrorist recidivism rate was 'not bad'; and who made a series of bizarre misstatements regarding the killing of Bin Laden.

62 posted on 10/01/2011 12:56:55 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Jonty30

The answer that I know about and have been watching to see if it happened is as follows: The border gun dealers who were fronting the gun sales should have had immunity letters from a govt agency to protect them. What the dealers were doing was illegal as hellonitsface. Such immunity, to be effective, would have to come from Holder or higher. In the absence of immunity you can expect to see the dealers get prosecuted along with anyone else involved. Further , the dealers can expect to be sued by the families of anyone hurt/killed as a result of this dumbass clusterflock. If immunity was involved there would have to be copies on the other end. But this White Hut bunch is so poly-thumbed that they might have tried to do the whole thing over the phone?


63 posted on 10/01/2011 1:28:53 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: MestaMachine
Make believe docs from a make believe _resident? Why ever would you think such a thing?

Why, I don't know! It just... came to me, out of the ether, as if I were a leftist, only conservative!   ;-p

64 posted on 10/01/2011 1:38:08 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Jonty30
Why would there be incriminating documents at all from the White House?

You really can't be this stupid. The documents show extensive communications between then-ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office Bill Newell - who led Fast and Furious - and then-White House National Security Staffer Kevin O'Reilly. Emails indicate the two also spoke on the phone. So my friend the question is what did Eric Holder and The Boy Wonder know and when did they know it? Eric Holder has already testified under oath that "I KNOW NOTHING.". AG PERGURY gets to be a problem for Eric and for Boy Wonder..

65 posted on 10/01/2011 1:44:20 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

B called racist
Have his and holders people after em?


66 posted on 10/01/2011 1:45:26 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

B called racist
Have his and holders people after em?


67 posted on 10/01/2011 1:46:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO)
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To: cherokee1

Considering that there are no reports of the gun dealers getting immunity, verbally or written, there probably wasn’t any.

My guess is that the gun dealers were ensnared by being askrf to do some relatively innocuous, that when done, turned out to be highly prosecutable. To avoid prosecution, they had to become biatches of the ATF and had to keep doing ATF’s bidding.


68 posted on 10/01/2011 2:01:32 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: FlyingEagle
O’Reilly needs to be arrested in Iraq by the US Army and returned to testify to Congress under subpoena.

Might save his life.

69 posted on 10/01/2011 2:02:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: PghBaldy

Hitlery wouldn’t get massive turnout of black voters though.


70 posted on 10/01/2011 2:07:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jonty30

Because they think they can get away with anything.

And they’re right. Look at all the crap that they have connection to
and no one can do anything or they’re afraid to do anything. They just give the appearance of doing something.

Where’s Issa? Where are our representatives? Pathetic.

COME ON 2012! WE NEED BALLS IN THE CROTCH AND FEET ON THE GROUND!


71 posted on 10/01/2011 2:20:17 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (.a.d.y.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Hitlery wouldn’t get massive turnout of black voters
though.”

Black voters - no. Motor voters - yes. Same results.


72 posted on 10/01/2011 2:20:54 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Danae; MestaMachine
The NSS - national Security Staffer is LITERALLY one degree of separation from the President. It is likely he worked under the National Security Advisor.... OBAMA KNEW ALL ABOUT GUN WALKER. He got the briefings!

Pinging MM to your comment.

73 posted on 10/01/2011 2:24:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: opentalk
...and the just reported suicide of ATF agent Jeff Ryan of the LA Field Division.

Oh no.

74 posted on 10/01/2011 2:25:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: hflynn

Don’t call me stupid if you can’t spell the word perjury, you lose credibility and any claims of provable intelligence.

Yeah, I know Holder, and probably Obama too, but it’s a matter of meeting the requirements of a criminal trial, which as yet is obviously not the case because they haven’t picked him up yet.

But my point was, if I was going to do some that could be prosecutable in the event it went sideways, there would be zero documentation and I wouldn’t use the White House computers. I would use a throwaway email account at the public library and I would also instruct everybody to do the same. I would not use a system where everything entered is archived and retrievable.


75 posted on 10/01/2011 2:57:22 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: PJ-Comix
White House national security staffers were "briefed on the toplines of ongoing federal efforts, but nobody in White House knew about the investigative tactics being used...

So they knew all about it, except when they knew nothing about it?
(coffee spew time)

76 posted on 10/01/2011 3:35:49 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Jonty30

>Here’s something I don’t understand.

Why would there be incriminating documents at all from the White House?

If Holder, Obama, and whomever, were knowingly doing something illegal, why wouldn’t they forge documents that either show Gunwalker to be with good intents or have any documentation at all?<

Because issa has gone slow, deliberate and done a good investigation. Issa already had the links from the white house locked in. For the white house to change it now would be outright forgery and to say that they don’t have anything would be perjury.

he has them and they know it, they just don’t know how much.


77 posted on 10/01/2011 3:43:24 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Jonty30
LMAO. If you are relying on my inability to spell perjury correctly on a post as an indication that you are not stupid then you really are stupid.
78 posted on 10/01/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: hflynn

No.
I am using your mispelling of the word perjury to discount your ability to judge another person’s intelligence.


79 posted on 10/01/2011 3:49:54 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
LMAO again. You are using my misspelling of the word perjury in a post to discount my ability to judge your lack of intelligence. Trust me you are stupid, Read your original post again. LMAO!!!!!
80 posted on 10/01/2011 3:57:35 PM PDT by hflynn
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