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Gun crime continues to decrease, despite increase in gun sales
dailycaller.com ^ | 28 September, 2011 | C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on 09/29/2011 6:31:23 AM PDT by marktwain

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I find it hard to believe that the total number of gun owners in the country is decreasing. Many women are now owning guns. What seems more likely is that a great many more people are reluctant to let strangers know that they own guns.
1 posted on 09/29/2011 6:31:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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Title should read: Gun crime declines BECAUSE of Increased Gun Sales


2 posted on 09/29/2011 6:33:46 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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Perhaps the apparently liberal headline writer for this article should try this on for size:

“Gun crime continues to decrease, possibly due to increase in gun sales”


3 posted on 09/29/2011 6:35:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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To: stefanbatory

And assclowns continue to write headlines based on their mythical presuppositions, despite all refutory empirical evidence.


4 posted on 09/29/2011 6:37:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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“While there are more people with concealed carry permits and there has been an increase in gun sales, the research indicates overwhelmingly that the same people are simply buying more guns and that there has been a sharp decline in the percentage of Americans who own guns,” Brady Campaign spokesperson Caroline Brewer said.

Present your "research" and cut the bullsh1t, Ms. Brewer.

5 posted on 09/29/2011 6:38:39 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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“In spite”? Had gun crime gone up you can bet your bottom dollar that the headline would have been “due to.”


6 posted on 09/29/2011 6:39:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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It may also be that young people, that is, middle class young people, are less involved with hunting and shooting sports in general. Some of it is generational and some of it is the result of anti-gun pressure from liberal pressure groups like the teacher's unions. Kids have been trained since pre-school that even drawing a picture of a gun is evil and can get you punished. Heck, other than e-bay, when was the last time you saw a cap gun or a BB gun for sale?

All we are seeing is the result of years and years of propaganda and perhaps a failure of our generation to train and educate and push back against the nannystaters.

Every generation of Americans should understand the skills, the value and the responsibilities for owning and using firearms.

7 posted on 09/29/2011 6:41:00 AM PDT by Chainmail
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When the good guys have guns, too, the bad guys reconsider their actions.

That stat has been shown in many locations where citizens are allowed to carry.

Notice how many gun related crimes happen in — ‘gun free’ zones.

Duh!


8 posted on 09/29/2011 6:42:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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While correlation is not causation, statistically, both the author and the Brady folks seemed to be tying themselves in knots to avoid drawing any correlation at all between the increase in gun sales and the decrease in crimes, didn't they?

If the "lax gun laws" in places surrounding Chicago and DC account for the numbers of gun crimes in those places, why aren't the numbers of crimes the same in the places surrounding Chicago and DC as they are in those cities? Do thugs just prefer living in cities, or what?

9 posted on 09/29/2011 6:43:27 AM PDT by susannah59
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I find it hard to believe that the total number of gun owners in the country is decreasing. Many women are now owning guns. What seems more likely is that a great many more people are reluctant to let strangers know that they own guns.

seems there's been alot of boating accidents recently.
10 posted on 09/29/2011 6:46:55 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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The “thug demographic” definitely is higher in cities.
And, not to push a correlation/causation false assumption on this point, but... city dwellers also tend to vote left.


11 posted on 09/29/2011 6:47:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Gun Sales Increase due to Agenda of Reporters!!
12 posted on 09/29/2011 6:50:35 AM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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The really don't get it after all.
13 posted on 09/29/2011 6:51:39 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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More Guns, Less Crime- I think that was a book title, right?


14 posted on 09/29/2011 6:51:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Those things DO tend to fall overboard a lot, don't they? And they are relatively dense, too, so they sink FAST...

PS - I'm curious as to why you hate Harleys. I have always loved ALL motorcycles, and after about 12 years with no American Iron (okay, it's now mostly Aluminum) in my garage, I added a 2000 Softail to my modest bike collection a couple of weeks ago.

Of course, it HAS rained every single day since I picked it up, so now that I think about it maybe the "Two-wheeled gods" are trying to send me a message. Perhaps: "You should have just stuck with the BMWs and Triumphs"...

15 posted on 09/29/2011 6:58:44 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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"Gun crime continues to decrease, despite increase in gun sales"

BATFE working overtime to bring crime statistics back up.


16 posted on 09/29/2011 7:15:05 AM PDT by Iron Munro (A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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i don’t like boats myself, so it’s hard for me to have a boating accident- but fortunately, i lost mine in the divorce. :)

as for harleys- it’s not so much the bikes as it is the attitude that goes with them, both from riders and non-riders. there’s too many harley riders (and wannabes) that have the attitude that harleys are the best things ever, and anything else is a POS.


17 posted on 09/29/2011 7:18:10 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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.....“California is in a category of its own as far as gun control laws there,” Parsons said. “New York is a little bit better, but they still have discretionary concealed carry laws.”......

She has this BACKWARDS. A spokesperson for the NRA should know better!

As bad as California is on guns, it is essentially “right to own” on most handguns. They have a list of “banned” handguns and long guns and the state mandated background check takes about three weeks for handguns. A safety class is required also.

New York is essentially discretionary on handgun ownership (not just carry). New York City is discretionary on ALL firearms ownership—take a look at the NYC police website.


18 posted on 09/29/2011 7:22:10 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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I have made it clear to all my Harley-centric friends that just because I now own one, it does NOT mean I am going to stop making fun of them...


19 posted on 09/29/2011 7:22:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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Kids have been trained since pre-school that even drawing a picture of a gun is evil and can get you punished.

Some years ago, my 10-year-old granndaughter was visiting us. I was carrying a .22 Ruger look-alike AK-47. She said, "Ooooh, a GUN!" and recoiled. I laid the gun on the floor and said "Let's stand here and see how long it takes for it to jump up and shoot somebody". She gave me a funny look and said, "But, grandpa, it's not alive!"

Out of the mouths of babes. (She's 16 now and no longer afraid of guns.)

20 posted on 09/29/2011 7:27:27 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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