Posted on 09/27/2011 7:57:53 PM PDT by Clairity
Texas Gov. Rick Perry is a radical who encourages illegal immigration.
Really?
That incendiary line of attack in the free-for-all among Republican presidential hopefuls begs for a deep breath and a dose of rational reflection.
Since 2001, Texas has allowed students to qualify for in-state college tuition if they've lived in the state for three years leading to high school graduation, completed their studies for a diploma or a GED, and enrolled at a public higher education institution.
Citizens, legal residents and other immigrants can get lower rates under the law. Students who meet the criteria but aren't U.S. citizens yet must file a statement that they intend to seek legal status.
The policy, which won widespread support in the Legislature before getting Perry's signature, has moral, practical and financial dimensions.
Support has come from the influential Texas Association of Business and chambers of commerce, as well as educators, the Texas Catholic Conference and civil libertarians.
In 2009, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott upheld the law. This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court also rejected a challenge to a similar law in California.
(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...
LG, it’s not just “big bucks.” Police depts, Sheriffs depts., and grass roots right wing activists (Steve Holtze and Norman Adams) did not want that bill, this year.
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/sanctuary-cities-causes-rift-within-texas-gop/
along with local law enforcement agencies
http://www.chron.com/news/falkenberg/article/Lisa-Falkenberg-Perry-should-heed-sanctuary-1682932.php
Perry is NOT supporting the Federal “Dream Act” — he is very much against it. THAT one IS amnesty.
It is unfortunate that the Texas “dream act” has the same name - - that allows children of illegals, who have been in the state for 3 years and finished high school there, to pay in-state tuition. That’s it.
You took the sentence out of context. Read the rest of it...1,000 dollars does not buy citizenship...it does not guarantee citizenship. Take a few minutes to absorb the entire plan and reflect.
There goes the phraze "Remember the Alamo"
That's almost too stupid a comment to reply to but here goes.
The border is a river, all 1200 miles of it. They do DRIVE in......right through the border crossing points at El Paso, Del Rio, Laredo, Brownsville etc along with all the other traffic. Some get caught, some don't. Then there are in-land border traffic stops with more drug sniffing dogs etc.
The latest way for them to get drugs into the country is by unmanned ultra-lights. So much for a fence stopping the drug traffic.
How about you google and post the location of some of those "gazillion" sites.
You are flat out wrong. Don't know about others but I've done the research and didn't run across ONE such site saying that.
No kidding.
I am aware the image has been photshopped as I have seen and used it countless times over the years.
But you are wrong about both the source and the time.
The image was not taken at an "anti-U.S., Mexican-flag-waving demonstration in 2009 or 2008". It is older than that and be seen in post #4 from 2007.
I am aware ILLEGAL aliens can and do get financial aid, a fact that many Perry supporters deny. However, ILLEGAL aliens cannot legally obtain a SSN though they can obtain an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number or “ITIN”.
The fact you couldn't find sources is your problem.
BTW, in the earlier Perry threads I provided detailed references. Go back. Read the threads. You'll find all you need.
Hi muawiyah, I don’t know how the funding works exactly, but I did go to your link and read that Rhode Island was looking at tuition hikes next year because of lesser funding coming from the state. I immediately felt as if that was probably the reason Rhode Island is now looking at doing the in-state tuition for the children of undocumented workers.
As that study (and the 9 others done across the country) indicated, ‘in-state tuition for children of undocumented workers’ programs increase the number of students paying at least the in-state tuition and fees (as opposed to not going at all and receiving $0.00 from them), raising funds for the colleges and universities. I would bet Rhode Island’s lack of funding is WHY they are considering offering in-state tuition to those folk - it’s a funds raising proposal for the schools, especially needed since they are losing so much state funding these days there.
I have been back and forth myself on how I feel about the in-state tuition thing. I don’t really like it a whole lot but see why all the states doing it are. However, as I have researched it, I see more and more that it is the colleges and universities who are the REAL winners with it - lots more $$$$ for them all around.
Maybe that is not such a bad thing, especially seeing from your article that Rhode Island colleges and universities (probably the same with other states) are hurting so much right now. Some extra funds at least help them stay afloat for everyone, and maybe it would help keep tuition rates from going up even more with those extra funds going their way.
Still, it’s a political hot potato for them all, and it’s just one of those things that makes one squirm wondering what could happen because of it.
Thanks for sharing that link!
What happens to the students? Well, let's say you're from RI and you stupidly decided these people could otherwise provide you with a suitable education.
You go there ~ you pay your tuition ~ and then you show up for your first class ~ a 500 student lecture hall with 2 grad students ~ 1 to open and close the doors and another to lecture.
Hey, wait a minute you say ~ where's the professor?
Well, the school answers, we had to let them go. We don't have enough money for professors, but look at those 499 other students in your classes ~ all from the Azores ~ some even speak English, and lo and behold look at the money we are making.
About then you realize why so terribly many out of state students want to attend Indiana University!
You have to climb through every oriface to get instate in Indiana, but you get a professor.
Instate students can get to the flagship campus of course ~ and see real professors ~ but they live in freshman dormitories these days.
This is why about half their students come from out of state ~ the other state's have been screwing with the educational offering and decided it's the illegal aliens who can guide them into educational nirvana.
Of course that never happens.
if you dredged that river and made it deep, and swift, and brought in more rainclouds to rain on its source, maybe it would stop someone ~ there are numerous fords.
I am not sure what you mean by “riding time.” That is a term I have never heard before. However, what I found was wording by the state of Texas that defines Establishing Domicile in Texas. A student from another state can actually get help at their college for meeting the qualifications for establishing domicile. Once the requirements are met, they are considered a Texas resident, and can get the in state tuition rates.
By the way, I live in another state where the colleges are limiting the in state student applications in favor of the out of state students. The colleges want to maximize the out of state students who will then pay the higher tuition rates. The in state students go to the back of the line and may not even get into the college they want. Is that fair or B.S.?
What do you mean, they are ALL subsidized by the taxpayers? Are you saying they get their tuition paid in full, partly paid or get a low interest loan? If they are getting preferential treatment, I see that as an injustice. Tell me what preferential treatment they are getting.
OK. I'll do that. And if I'm wrong, I'll admit it. BTW, did you see that Rhode Island is the latest state to give in-state tuition to illegals? Announced today.
There were generations of Mexican families residing in Texas before it was colonized. One reason groups of Americans were allowed in and given land grants was to provide a buffer between the Commanches and those original Mexicans.
The Texas towns of Sequin and Navarro are named after two of those Mexican defenders of the Alamo.
It is wrong to assume that all Texas hispanics are pro illegal immigration. Many are quite conservative.
They are literally destroying their state's higher education system.
Fox news announced this morning that they "went around the legislature" to do it. Just reporting what they said. I have no independent knowledge.
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