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Rick Perry an immigration radical? Hardly
Start Telegram ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Star-Telegram Editorial

Posted on 09/27/2011 7:57:53 PM PDT by Clairity

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is a radical who encourages illegal immigration.

Really?

That incendiary line of attack in the free-for-all among Republican presidential hopefuls begs for a deep breath and a dose of rational reflection.

Since 2001, Texas has allowed students to qualify for in-state college tuition if they've lived in the state for three years leading to high school graduation, completed their studies for a diploma or a GED, and enrolled at a public higher education institution.

Citizens, legal residents and other immigrants can get lower rates under the law. Students who meet the criteria but aren't U.S. citizens yet must file a statement that they intend to seek legal status.

The policy, which won widespread support in the Legislature before getting Perry's signature, has moral, practical and financial dimensions.

Support has come from the influential Texas Association of Business and chambers of commerce, as well as educators, the Texas Catholic Conference and civil libertarians.

In 2009, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott upheld the law. This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court also rejected a challenge to a similar law in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


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KEYWORDS: heartless; immigration; perry
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To: Clairity


181 posted on 09/28/2011 12:23:12 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: steel_resolve

The reality is that kids that drop out of high school are more likely to engage in criminal activity. That’s just the way things happen. Drug dealing becomes another occupation that does not require a high school diploma or a college degree.

The real answer is to make sure these kids do not get put into the situation they are in by not letting them get into the country in the first place. That is why I say that we should demand that the federal government fulfill their obligation to seal the border. Why throw these kids under the bus because the federal government failed in their responsibility?


182 posted on 09/28/2011 12:38:20 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: katiedidit1

I remember reading the Bush immigration plan. I thought it was a good one. I think I have it saved on one of my computers. I might just look into it.


183 posted on 09/28/2011 12:43:31 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: RobbyS

I would hope the students were considered for enrollment into the colleges equally with the other students. As for grants, loans, aid and etc, I would hope that no student is given special privileges. I have no idea what the reality it is, however, if I were a citizen of Texas, I would make sure it was damned fair.


184 posted on 09/28/2011 12:54:22 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: katiedidit1

I am saving it to my documents. Thanks.


185 posted on 09/28/2011 12:57:37 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: All

I don’t know if this has been posted but I wanted to because of all the candidates, I can see a more complete picture with perry. I’ve not found such with the others. Like it or not, at least I can see it.
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A Better Way to Secure the Border
Thursday, December 14, 2006 • Editorial

A famous poet once wrote that “good fences make good neighbors.” However, this author did not have to deal with the realities of homeland security where a wall is only as strong as it is fortified by law enforcement personal. Building a wall along the entire Texas-Mexico border would not only be cost prohibitive – in the range of billions of dollars – it would create a false sense of security. And unless the federal government is willing to put enforcement personnel all along such a barrier – something it has refused to do for decades along a border without fencing – it will be no more successful at keeping illegal immigrants out of Texas than the Rio Grande River.

Strategic fencing in high-population areas makes sense. But I would like to see the federal government invest resources in increased border security operations like Operation Rio Grande rather than build a 1,200-mile wall.

With joint law enforcement operations we have managed to reduce crime in areas patrolled by border sheriffs by up to 60 percent during surge operations. With fixed wing and rotary assets in the air, more law enforcement boots on the ground, and a stronger boat patrol presence along the Rio Grande, we have virtually shut down drug and human smuggling activity during intensive operations. The success of these operations is the reason I will be asking the legislature for $100 million to secure our border.

As I have said repeatedly, you can’t have homeland security without border security, and there is no sense in reforming immigration laws if we cannot enforce them. And I have said equally as often that immigration reform without border security is meaningless.

Divisive language on the subject of border security and immigration reform is simply not constructive or useful in solving the problem. We cannot be a nation that is anti-immigrant because we are in fact a nation of immigrants. In fact, foreign-born citizens are some of the strongest supporters of tougher border security measures. Clearly, something has to be done because our hospitals, schools, and other service providers are being flooded with illegal immigrants at a great cost to taxpayers.

But to me neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer. The first unfairly rewards those who broke our laws, and the latter is not only unrealistic and unenforceable, but it would devastate our economy. That’s why I support a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status.

I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship.
Along with millions of Americans, I think it is wrong to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship ahead of those who have followed the law and are waiting to enter this country legally. And like millions of Americans I do not support amnesty.

With a more secure border and a reasonable guest worker program we can allow guest workers to help build our economy without offering citizenship. Many don’t even want to become citizens – they just want to provide for their families back home.

We just finished an election where the Washington politicians gave us a lot of rhetoric on immigration reform, but no real solutions. We need Washington to be a part of the solution. For us it is not just a subject of intense debate, it directly impacts how we live.

As Governor, I understand that I represent all the people of Texas, and not everyone sees eye to eye on this issue. But, I do promise that I will use reason and fact, not emotion and fear, to help us resolve this issue in a spirit of unity. We need to work toward solutions, not slogans. We need immigration reform that doesn’t compromise our security, and security that doesn’t compromise our economy. And I believe we can accomplish all of this with a guest worker program and real security measures that utilize our law enforcement tools to help secure our border


186 posted on 09/28/2011 1:01:50 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: RobbyS

I can’t believe the people of Texas are allowing such unfairness. I hope they make sure no student get pushed aside so that others get special privileges. The opportunities for higher education should be as fair and equitable as possible. If I were a Texan, I would demand it be fixed by my state representative.


187 posted on 09/28/2011 1:03:21 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am reposting my response, because I found an error in transmission that I want to correct:

The idea of “Hispandering” (which is an excellent word) has crossed my mind. However, I think it was the will of the Texas people that got all those state representative to vote overwhelmingly to put the bill through. I think it was an easy sell that struck a chord of fairness. The “Hispandering” may have gave the creme de la creme as an incentive.

188 posted on 09/28/2011 1:09:32 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: All
Gov. Perry Signs Taxpayer Protection Bill

House Bill 2 Ensures Longevity of $15.7 Billion Property Tax Cut; Additional Legislation Protects Against Local Tax Increases, Appraisal Creep

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 • Press Release

Reform the franchise tax to close loopholes, reward employers for creating jobs and investing in employee benefits, and mandating that businesses that hire illegal immigrants will pay the price with higher taxes.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/2422/

189 posted on 09/28/2011 1:20:12 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: All

While we’re on this, I am wondering why I don’t see Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul co-sponsoring some immigration legislation.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2199/show
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-6253

And with the votes those two have been missing— I was wondering if we shouldn’t send them some “concern troll” badges.

Also, looking back on Santorum’s votes, he wasn’t too tough on immigration himself...well, not until 2006.


190 posted on 09/28/2011 1:27:34 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Texas has several exceptions for non-residents to establish residency and/or pay in state tuition.
http://www.collegefortexans.com/apps/financialaid/tofa2.cfm?ID=530

There’s provisions for non-citizens, whether legal or not, to pay in state tuition after 3 years in Texas, the last 3 years of school in a Texas high school, and graduation from a Texas high school.

People who live in counties that border Texas, in New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana can also pay in state tuition.

And there’s a waiver available for students from Mexico who attend some universities within 100 miles of the border.

Citizens and legal residents, on the other hand, only have to live here a year.


191 posted on 09/28/2011 1:41:29 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: listenhillary
>> The feds wont send them back and the States cannot do so. Now what do you do? <<

I suggest we stop giving them handouts and making it easy and comfortable to live in our country illegally.

192 posted on 09/28/2011 1:41:42 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: shield

I hope you are right that the Feds will fail to turn the US into a Third World nation. What it will take is more actual Americans waking up.


193 posted on 09/28/2011 1:52:28 AM PDT by Jim Wonders Why
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To: Meet the New Boss

There’s no such State law or regulation that prohibits law enforcement from checking citizenship status.

Where this happens, it’s the decision of local police chiefs, as in Houston. Governor Perry took a lot of flack from law enforcement for criticizing those who do prohibit checks for citizenship.

One of the more powerful groups that opposed our anti-sanctuary cities bill was law enforcement, sheriffs and police departments. http://www.chron.com/news/falkenberg/article/Lisa-Falkenberg-Perry-should-heed-sanctuary-1682932.php

He’s also criticized the Fed’s imposition of regulations that makes it difficult and more expensive for local LEO to verify citizenship (Fed Up!) The governor defended Arizona for deciding to pass its own law, but said he didn’t like that the bill created new legal risk for local LEO’s:

“”I do have some concerns with the law, and I don’t believe it is necessarily the right approach for Texas, in part because of the new cause of action it provides against law enforcement. Having battled trial lawyers for decades, I am concerned about opening up the courthouse doors to additional lawsuits. But I strongly support the right of the citizens of Arizona, Texas, or any other state to pass laws to protect themselves. In fact, we joined in federal court with eight other states to help defend Arizona against the Obama administration’s lawsuit.””
Perry, Rick; Newt Gingrich (2010-11-15). Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington (p. 161). Little, Brown and Company. Kindle PC Edition.


194 posted on 09/28/2011 1:54:06 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: Ajnin
I can understand why liberals are so stupid but it is endlessly frustrating to see people that should know better be so damn naive....Freepers no less.

Frustration bump.

What Perry's big-bucks contributors want, Perry wants.

His big-bucks contributors don't give a tinker's dam about education problems posed by millions of illegals in Texas -- they don't even want educated workers. Education just makes it harder for them to work their wage beatdown!

His big-bucks contributors don't give a damn about the State of Texas, its people, their problems, or anything else but their own bottom lines. They're a destructive influence, and Perry's their boy.

Some people who are willing to accept that and follow someone else's servile creature are truly, deeply stupid!

195 posted on 09/28/2011 2:55:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: South40
Your image is Photoshopped. The saucy Mexican trabajador at left holding his crotch is shopped in from a photo of an anti-U.S., Mexican-flag-waving demonstration in 2009 or 2008 in iirc Arizona.
196 posted on 09/28/2011 3:00:01 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: steel_resolve
Explain why I should support a group who is ready to resort to crime if they don't get their tuition paid for?

High dropout rates from school are already a cultural characteristic of Latin American, especially Mexican, immigrants. They have a tendency to leave school in their mid-teens and go looking for work in the construction trades.

Family support for continuing their educations is very weak. That is something they brought with them from the old country.

197 posted on 09/28/2011 3:06:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: dps.inspect

Nah, Texas would conquer Mexico in a heartbeat.

Though, the end result would essentially be the same.


198 posted on 09/28/2011 3:40:24 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: GeronL

Not everyone. Just you!


199 posted on 09/28/2011 4:00:32 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: Texan

Let’s deal with reality.

Okay, Perry’s not an immigration radical. He also doesn’t stand with the 6 states that are closer to what should be done.


200 posted on 09/28/2011 4:14:30 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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