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Rick Perry an immigration radical? Hardly
Start Telegram ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Star-Telegram Editorial

Posted on 09/27/2011 7:57:53 PM PDT by Clairity

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is a radical who encourages illegal immigration.

Really?

That incendiary line of attack in the free-for-all among Republican presidential hopefuls begs for a deep breath and a dose of rational reflection.

Since 2001, Texas has allowed students to qualify for in-state college tuition if they've lived in the state for three years leading to high school graduation, completed their studies for a diploma or a GED, and enrolled at a public higher education institution.

Citizens, legal residents and other immigrants can get lower rates under the law. Students who meet the criteria but aren't U.S. citizens yet must file a statement that they intend to seek legal status.

The policy, which won widespread support in the Legislature before getting Perry's signature, has moral, practical and financial dimensions.

Support has come from the influential Texas Association of Business and chambers of commerce, as well as educators, the Texas Catholic Conference and civil libertarians.

In 2009, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott upheld the law. This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court also rejected a challenge to a similar law in California.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: heartless; immigration; perry
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To: Meet the New Boss
His unwillingness to even consider fencing as part of a border security strategy except in very, very limited areas

Since Texas' southern border is the Rio Grande River, just where would you build a complete fence? Since it can't be built in the middle of the river, for all practical purposes you would be ceding the entire 1200 miles of river to Mexico.

What about the land owners along the river. Are you willing to cut them off from irrigation and livestock water and leave them high and dry? This would result in years of litigation, regardless of the state's power of eminent domain.

The cost of building a fence in the rugged, isolated Big Bend country would be astronomical. The transportation cost alone would be prohibitive.

Go to Utube and watch videos of illegals scaling the AZ fence. One shows two women w/o a ladder going up and over in 18 seconds. As one poster put it, "a fence is only a speed bump unless you're prepared to use deadly force once they're over". Since this isn't going to happen, we'll STILL need "boots on the ground" regardless.

Texas has already spent 400 million and has doubled the budget this year for border security in a time of cuts.

The cost of buying the land necessary for a 1200 mile fence, fighting lawsuits, building and maintaining said fence would cost billions of dollars. And we'd STILL need those "boots on the ground". As a Texas taxpayer, I'm not willing to foot the bill.

101 posted on 09/27/2011 9:22:46 PM PDT by Texan
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To: jonrick46

The crime they commit is staying in the county illegally after 18. Boom, done goodbye.


102 posted on 09/27/2011 9:27:11 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: jonrick46; ari-freedom
There are no "subsidies" involved here. It is a matter of in state tuition rates.

Texas Law Offers Financial Aid and In State Tuition to Undocumented

103 posted on 09/27/2011 9:28:55 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: jonrick46

“Likewise, it does not seem fair to deny in state tuition rates to children of illegals who were residents far longer than students who were residents for one year and could then qualify for in state tuition rates. Does that seem fair to you?”

Yes. There’s a difference between a legal citizen and someone who is not. If you don’t do your part then you shouldn’t get any breaks.


104 posted on 09/27/2011 9:29:48 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: steel_resolve
Lols, that is brilliant.

Thank you. :-)

105 posted on 09/27/2011 9:30:02 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: Texan
"Since Texas' southern border is the Rio Grande River, just where would you build a complete fence? Since it can't be built in the middle of the river, for all practical purposes you would be ceding the entire 1200 miles of river to Mexico."

Perry was against the 700 mile fence that was supposed to go like this

106 posted on 09/27/2011 9:32:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: muawiyah

Ignore my post. I think I read your comment wrong


107 posted on 09/27/2011 9:33:58 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: jonrick46
How hard is it for you to comprehend that tons of taxpayer dollars subsidise higher education in the USA?

And let us all just completely ignore the 100% taxpayer subsidized K-12 compulsory education system.

108 posted on 09/27/2011 9:34:03 PM PDT by sarasmom (Herman Cain fails to gain support from professional RINOs . Gosh, that must mean he is not RINO.)
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To: jonrick46

Leftist spin comments like yours, make my butt hurt.


109 posted on 09/27/2011 9:36:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ari-freedom
>>>Since it can't be built in the middle of the river, for all practical purposes you would be ceding the entire 1200 miles of river to Mexico.<<<

That is a very good point. One that I had never contemplated. And I was never for a fence btw, boots on the ground (jets, helicopters, tanks, and UAVs) is the only way to go.

110 posted on 09/27/2011 9:37:23 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: shield
Wait, so you're saying that even ALASKA and NEW JERSEY allow in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants? And they do it without any pre-qualifications?

Gee, why are Palin and Christie so soft on the children of illegal aliens, and why is Perry so heartless that he actually makes them prove that they have resided in the state and are on a path to citizenship?

111 posted on 09/27/2011 9:37:50 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: McGavin999; ari-freedom
Hey ari, you got photo ID up there in New York yet? Perry passed it in Texas. Photo ID, you know, the thing that keeps illegals from voting. You got it there yet?

Crickets...

112 posted on 09/27/2011 9:39:40 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Carling

Texas under liberal, open borders Perry, was the first in the nation to pass in-state tuition for illegals.


113 posted on 09/27/2011 9:39:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If you do not put that in context..It is VERY misleading.
"President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.

An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity.
It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease,
and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity.

Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues."

114 posted on 09/27/2011 9:41:12 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: shortey22

Well, that takes care of Rubio!

He’s a RINO too! /sar


115 posted on 09/27/2011 9:43:16 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: freedomfiter2
Students who are here illegally should be deported and sent to the back of the line, not given a college education.

What point is there arguing about what SHOULD happen. Let's deal with reality. They are not going to be deported. Not ONE candidate or maybe candidate has advocated mass deportations.

The United States Supreme Court as ruled that all states MUST educated children of illegals through high school. And only one state in the union bars illegals from enrolling in college and that state is South Carolina. Forty-four states allow illegals to pay in-state tuition.

Texas rules are now HARDER than they were before.

116 posted on 09/27/2011 9:43:27 PM PDT by Texan
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To: MEG33

Good grief!


117 posted on 09/27/2011 9:44:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Texan
They are not going to be deported.

Perry's new campaign slogan?

118 posted on 09/27/2011 9:45:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WOSG
"No. Perry is an immigration RINO, like GW Bush and others in the GOP, he doesn't ‘encourage’ it, but will not make hard choices to shut it down."

It is sad to see you political bias cloud your understanding of Governor Rick Perry. In fact, you should be pointing the finger of blame at the true cause of our immigration problem: The Obama Regime. Each illegal in this country is a vote for Obama's reelection. Do you get the connection?

If Governor Perry were elected President, he would immediately bring federal troops and all the technological resources of our military on to that border and shut it down. He has said over and over that the only way to seal that border is to bring "boots on the ground." He has said it loud and clear and you pretend you did not hear it. You act like he is clanging a bell and calling them over the border, with maidens with baskets of goodies to hand them as they cross over. You do not hear the desperation in his voice as the Obama Regime continues to ignore his requests for more help on the border. You do not seem to give a damn that Texas has had to foot the bill for whatever border security they get. And all you do is criticize because the people of Texas don't cough up the billions of dollars to do immigration control like click-o prest-o magic.

Well, to do immigration control right, it's going to take some real work and it's going to take some real money that the people of Texas don't have. They are busy spending that money on the illegals that they do have in the state. Besides, it is the Federal Government's responsibility to secure the border as outlined in the Constitution.

So, let's get off Governor Rick Perry's back and start pointing the finger at the Obama Regime.

119 posted on 09/27/2011 9:45:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: muawiyah

That’s what I’m sayin! We need a uhaul filter.


120 posted on 09/27/2011 9:46:13 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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