Posted on 09/26/2011 8:49:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
It goes without saying that Rick Perry alienated the base he needs to win last week with his no heart on lllegal immigrants comment at the Fox News/Google debate.
Either hes completely deaf to the concerns of real conservatives, or hes taking our vote for granted.
Either way, hes headed in the wrong direction, as his poor showing in the Florida straw poll demonstrates.
I honestly dont have a simple solution for teens who are brought here illegally as children, but then again, Im not running for President. Send them home? Home where? Let them stay? Youre rewarding their parents lawbreaking, and encouraging the next wave of parents to do the same.
Its a conundrum, to be sure. But offering in-state tuition, or any other type of special benefits Thats an easy one: NO.
Why hasnt anyone asked the most obvious question of all? If the kids are in limbo, without legal status, why bother subsidizing an education for them, when they cant legally work in the U.S. and wont be able to repay? And with unemployment so high among native born teens, why should we add millions more to the pool of job applicants?
Governor Perry doesnt seem to understand principle. When cornered about the HPV vaccine, his response was akin to if it will save one life...oh brother.
Our worst legislation comes from that perspective. Tell me, Governor, is it okay to have mandates about anything, whether legislative or executive, just because someone might die? Since when is that a conservative value? Dont we have enough bad laws?
No one wants illegal teens left in limbo, but what does that have to do with government subsidization of their education? Come to think of it, why should I subsidize anyones college education, native born or otherwise?
Whatever happened to investing in yourself?
Governor Perry had the chance to say- since his heart is apparently as big as the Texas taxpayers checkbook- that although he doesnt want to punish those kids, they should not be subsidized by taxpayers. But instead he took a swipe at those of us who do see the principle at stake.
Big mistake, Mr. Perry.
We have a heart, were just tapped out.
The path to citizenship is an entirely different issue from taxpayer funded benefits, which in my opinion is the ONLY way to solve the illegal immigration problem.
Youll have far fewer ants coming into your house if you dont leave sweets lying around. Sure, the worker ants will fan out to do recon, but if they dont find any handouts, theyll go elsewhere; and they certainly wont come back with reinforcements.
Im not comparing illegal immigrants to ants, but the principle is the same.
Eliminating government handouts in any form; WIC, SNAP, housing, education, etc., will, by attrition, greatly reduce our illegal immigration problem. Politicians on both sides have looked me in the eye many times and sworn that illegals dont qualify for benefits.
But they do, as soon as they have a child born in the U.S.
The guy coming in to pick fruit in the Imperial Valley doesnt really worry me. Weve always had agricultural, seasonal migration. Whats changed in the last 100 years are the additional incentives for them to stay and bring their families here, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer.
Subsidized education, medical care and housing for the entire family of a migrant, including anchor babies is whats killing us, and its our fault if we continue those policies.
Americans have passed these laws and allowed these programs to get completely out of control. This should be addressed honestly by our next President.
Although the entire problem cant be solved by cutting these programs, if the only illegals we had left were at least pulling their own weight, Americans would be far less concerned.
Governor Perry and the other candidates need to stop talking about controlling the border or building a wall and get serious about what WILL solve many of the problems uncontrolled immigration causes.
Cutting programs is cheaper than building the Great Wall of Texas.
So lets review: true conservatives dont erode everyones rights to save lives, nor do they allow misguided compassion to subsidize lawbreakers.
Governor Perry, dont take conservative voters for granted. We have other choices.
Besides Im an unabashed Cain-iac anyway.
Great post.
You insinuated that Perry has power to have a sign removed in Mexico. Do you want Perry to remove signs in the Ghazni province of Afghanistan as well?
That said, I am against in-state tuition for illegals because every one the spots in a TX university that goes to an illegal is a spot that could have and should have gone to U.S. citizen.’
That is assuming there is a finite amount of slots open in Texas universities. It’s not that way in Missouri’s state universities, where such a small number of illegals (12000) would easily be assimilated with displacing anyone.
Is there a shortage of spots and legal Texas residents are not being accepted? 76% acceptance rate at Texas San Marco, other state supported colleges range from 60-75 percent with Texas A & M at 99.3% acceptance*figures from US News and World Report. So I don’t think there are many who want to go not being able to find a place. If anything the tuition paid by these students helps support the University system.
Foreign citizens can apply and get spots too, does this mean you are against foreign students at State Colleges/Universities? The kids being discussed compete against their peer groups to win acceptance, US citizen, Foreign Nationals etc.
Romney’s not “my pal”.
Ping!
If they are going to come to the US illegally and if they are not deported for whatever reason, they should pay a price, They should be forced to register and obtain a photo ID and all Latinos should have to present a legal picture ID to vote since most of them are illegals. They should have to wait 5 four year election cycles to be eligible to vote. No free handouts and no in-state tuition for out of staters. Make them live in the state the required number of years. No food stamps and no free hospital care. If they don’t pay their bills deport them. I say all this in compassion. Compassion for my fellow Americans that have lost jobs and homes to these criminals.
Why? As members of the Spanish congregation of our denomination in our county we have seen the following:
**Bigamy! Many of the Illegals here have two families. One wife and set of children is here in the U.S. and other wife and children are abandoned in Mexico without the benefit of divorce.
** Whole villages are denuded of men ( and some women) between the ages of 16 and 50. The women and children left behind are defenseless against the attacks of gangs and drug lords.
*** The most ambitious, energetic, daring, and imaginative men and ( some women) are here in the U.S. Entrepreneurial energy and **political** energy is drained from their home countries.
** Many of the children in our congregation live in families were some of the children are citizen and others are not, and many have half-brothers and sisters in their home countries that they have never met.
** The non-citizen children are condemned to a life of black market employment and evasion of the law, while some of their siblings have every opportunity to make a life in the U.S.
** Many of the children in our congregation have never met a single member of their extended family. They are utterly cut off from grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins.
** The illegal children are not citizens, condemned for life to the underground, and if deported are **absolutely** Ill-equiped for survival in their home country. Many do not even speak Spanish well, and have no relationships built with their home country extended families.
Perry has no rational case. He doesn't think about this rationally and neither does the Texas elite.
http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/perryy-s-rapid-decline/
Jay, I do agree with your post on some of your points - but HUH? “10 - 15 million illegal aliens?” The figure “12 million” has been used for at least 8 years - yet they are coming across our open borders by the thousands, every day! I will be glad to send you tapes of one 3 foot path where thousands came into the US in a six week period. (And the border is 2,000+ miles long......imagine how many three foot paths there are!)
I am guessing that there are at least 50M illegals in this country - but no way to make an accurate count. (Of course if they were COWS, our government would know every thing they ate, how many times a day they ate, where the food came from, where they were when they ate it, when they were moved, etc.)
But, no political figure seems to care about the people who are bankrupting our country with all the FREEBIES they get, that comes from our pockets. (Not to mention the crimes, robberies, molestations, stolen ID’s, rapes, drunk driving caused deaths, etc.)
I am not saying all illegals are criminals - not at all. I am just saying that if anyone wants to come into our country, they should come here legally, obey our laws, and pay their own way. (Not siphon off our already empty pockets.)
It’s always amusing to read the “critiques” written by those who have never read what it is they claim to criticize.
Have you actually gone and read the Texas DREAM Act? Have you actually gone and looked up the numbers related to it, both when it was passed and now?
No, I didn’t think so.
Excellent point about the teenage children of military parents!
Healthcare and immigration. Probably the 2 biggest issues behind the tea party, right?
And yet Mick Pomney leads the GOP race? What a frigging joke.
“Either hes completely deaf to the concerns of real conservatives, or hes taking our vote for granted.”
How ironic. Dubya was both.
” Healthcare and immigration. Probably the 2 biggest issues behind the tea party, right?
And yet Mick Pomney leads the GOP race? What a frigging joke.”
Mick Pomney ?
LOL!!
These increasing frantic stories about begging Christie to get in are a sign that Republicans are in bad shape,
Christie?? If he wanted to run then he wouldnt have demanded house Republicans cave to Dems the Disaster funding bill.
I thought of “Mick Pomney”. Googled it, a couple others around the net had already thought of it too.
I aim to make it popular! My totally original creation “Dede Scuzzobama” never really took off but I did see a couple other people use it.
” I thought of Mick Pomney. Googled it, a couple others around the net had already thought of it too.”
LOL!!
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