Earth to Gov. Perry: True "Heart" Means No Benefits to Illegals

Townhall.com ^ | September 26, 2011 | Heidi Harris

[Gaffer]

Perry, while temptingly votable in my voting lexicon - once, has relegated himself to the status of “State-politician”. I’ll never vote for him. I don’t care how he stands on any other matter. To me, illegal immigration is the nail in the coffin for this country, and anyone who has a ‘heart’ and excuses it, abets it, rewards it, gives it hope, all while calling me, personally, heartless, can take a flying frackin leap back to Texas and stay there.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Because the TX DREAM act bill was passed with a veto proof majority it would be easy for bush2 to condemn it even now. He won’t though because he is a “compassionate conservative” who believes in destroying America in the hope of getting some Hispanics to vote for him.”

The second part I cant argue with given his “have a heart’ response but as to him being able to reputiate it: he couldn't repudiate it after strongly supporting it without looking like a liar and still getting nuked for being a phony, Plus it passed with that TX Senate majority because it was so popular in Texas meaning he is pandering to Texas voters for sure. Sucking up to Hispanics to win the R primary defending the Dream Act would not be strategic(smart) thing to do unless he thought it was in the bag. He is still governor there unlike Romney.

Incidently, Romney fully supported Bush/Mccain/Pelosi amnesty so he gets no points from me.

[org.whodat]

Yes, excellent writing.

[GOPyouth]

GOV PERRY DID NOT STOP THIS In the border city of Reynosa a banner reads, “Former soldiers sought to join armed group; good pay, $500,” “The Zetas operations group wants you, soldier or ex-soldier.”

You do realize that this supposed sign is in a foreign country?

[org.whodat]

There is no anchor baby law, just sorry ass politicians that refuse to question the determination of some government flunky, because of the slave labor chamber of commerce. The only thing close is a foot note in a supreme court decision that has less power than the created rights of roe.

[free me]

Perry could have framed it just like that. “I thought it was a mistake but the will of the people as expressed through the legislature...”

That’s how I see it anyway.

I agree with you on Romney. It’s one of the many reasons he will never have my vote.

[GOPyouth]

Perry could have framed it just like that. “I thought it was a mistake but the will of the people as expressed through the legislature..."

Perry and the legislature both think this is the right course for Texas. He would be lying if he said he didn't support it. Santorum, perched in DC, thinks that he knows better than Texans.

[org.whodat]

Actually the problem in Mexico is ownership, the whole stinking country is owned by a few families. They owned the peons at one time as well . So far a few attempts has been made to reform this but they have not gone well.

[Liz]

You do realize that this supposed sign is in a foreign country?

I KNOW the sign was in Mexico-----a foreign country.

You apparently know Mexico is a foreign country (kudos to you).

Now somebody better tell Perry---Mexico is a foreign country......he's the only one who doesn't seem to know.

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GOOD HAIR BUDDIES----PERRY WITH MEXICO'S THEN-PRES VICENTE FOX

At a 2001 "border summit" in which he sucked up to Mexicans-----Perry advanced a “bi-national health insurance” program that would cover both US and Mexican residents along the border....including the savage Zeta gangs setting up drug cartels in Dallas.

Perry praised a “unified,” trans-national health care program. and was ready, willing and eager to pour US dollars on illegals violating US borders.....including the savage Zetas setting up its drug cartel in Dallas, and those on the border organizing against the US.

[dsc]

“Mexico sucks because it is full of Mexicans.”

1. Every former colony of Spain is corrupt to the core. They learned it from the Spanish.

2. Leftards and monarchists have been screwing them over periodically since the Spanish left.

3. Even when leftards weren’t messing with them, they picked horrible leaders like Santa Anna, who started a war with the US over the strip of land between the Rio Grande and the Nueces River, which resulted in Mexico’s cessation of territory that is now the states of California, Arizona, and New Mexico.

[Anima Mundi]

Also, I assume that when the parents originally came HERE that they similarly were going to a place unfamiliar as “home” to them.

These kids STILL have a big advantage over their peers in Mexico when they return, having benefitted from being in America.

I really do not see the heart in favoring people who have shoved their way to the front of the line. We’d never feel empathy for them if they did it at the grocery store or at the DMV. They are making it hard on people who are trying to immigrate here LEGALLY.

[MortMan]

So reduced tuition at a state-supported college doesn’t count as taxpayer subsidy?

[Anima Mundi]

Mexico sucks because of a corrupt government and legal system. Which is another reason we need to have immigrants who understand the value of laws. The first step in this understanding is that immigrants MUST come here legally. When laws are meaningless and sporadically enforced, the country goes downhill fast. We must stop this monstrosity of calling something illegal and treating it as though it is legal.

[Inspectorette]

I've never read an editorial lamenting how heartless it is for our military to force teenage children of military personnel to have to move to a new home they've never known before when the father receives new orders.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this! My grandchildren are forced to move every three years when my Marine son-in-law gets new orders. So far it's been Camp Pendleton, Guam, the Pentagon, Okinawa, back to California at MCRD-San Diego, now they're in Germany at European Command. Some places they've loved (SoCal and Germany), some not so great (Guam, Okinawa). My daughter and four grandsons are troupers - they make the best of it. )

SIL will be getting new orders in June of '12. My hubby and I are praying that they'll be back in Southern California. It's a lot easier to drive down there than it is to fly overseas to see them.

[KansasGirl]

[If illegals are offered in state tuition, then so must non resident legal residents.]

They are after they establish a 1 year residency. For the illegals, it is 3 residency and a diploma from a TX high school.

That said, I am against in-state tuition for illegals because every one the spots in a TX university that goes to an illegal is a spot that could have and should have gone to U.S. citizen.

[Loyal Sedition]

OK, so I’m heartless!

So is nature.

Once again, Mexico (and other countries where many illegals originate) are stuck in a cycle of corruption and lawlessness.

Send ALL illegals back, NO exceptions.
Yes, this WILL suck for some of them, it will not be “fair” as they were allowed to stay in the U.S. too long, now they think they are entitled to stay.
They are not.

An influx of American educated people, with experience of (relatively) honest government should provide a sufficient base of educated and motivated citizens to begin truly cleaning up their own government.

There are enough of them to form their own communities, communities where the corruption and shake-downs are not accepted.
This should lead to clearly successful communities, which should attract others to emulate them.

The corrupt status quo will resist this change, as the English crown resisted American independence.
But the seed of freedom in Mexico (and other $#@&-hole countries) is these young American educated repatriated citizens.

The Chinese refuse to allow their illegals to be returned, precisely because they fear the “contagion” of people who have experienced freedom.

In the long run, but not nearly so long as the corruption has been allowed to continue, this may be the only way to clean up these countries without waging war and imposing order on them.

[Niteflyr]

To sum it up: Mexico sucks because it is full of Mexicans.

May not be politically correct but that is a fact... if Canadians populated Mexico it would be a completely different country for example...

[Waryone]

"Perry seems rather tone-deaf, which is too bad because he could have rationally explained his position on this, not so much to convince people he is right, but instead to convince them that it doesn’t reveal a basic flaw in his conservative outlook...

...But saying people who disagree with you “don’t have a heart” was just stupid. Just as talking about judging people by “the sound of their last name” was stupid. You can defend policy differences — you can’t defend stupid."

It wasn't just tone deaf or even stupid. It was a sign of what his true beliefs are. Debates are good because you get to learn something about the candidate. They tell you what the candidates believe now, and you may even get an explanation as to why what they believe now is different than what they have done in the past. But if you are very observant, a debate will give you something you can't get anywhere else -- information on what the candidates truly believe. How they truly think.

Debaters are placed in a situation where they have to think on their feet. They are under stress and it's extremely stressful if you are wearing a mask trying to keep your true beliefs hidden.

Perry got caught. When placed in a stressful situation, he reverted to the inner democrat that is his true self. Why did he grab for a liberal talking point? Why did he say what he did? Like other liberals, he honestly believes that conservatives are heartless people. No apology. No he misspoke. Those aren't necessary because he really believes he is right.

Keeping up conservative appearances must be more difficult for him than he imagined because Perry is far worse at it than your pal Mitt Romney. Neither of these two RINOs deserves conservative votes.

Was it a stupid thing to say? Yes, especially if you are looking to win the conservative vote. There is little rational explanation for a liberal belief system. The only honest explanation he could have given would have been "sorry, I let my mask slip."

[businessprofessor]

I believe the practice is still contrary to federal law.
The 1996 federal immigration law says illegal aliens cannot gain higher-education benefits “on the basis of residence” unless such benefits are also extended to US citizens. States that have passed tuition-benefits laws say they are based on high school attendance or graduation, not residence. Opponents of such laws say that’s a de facto form of residency and therefore violate the federal law.

[JayGalt]

I am confused by the furor over this issue. These parents have been paying sales tax and property tax or rent to people who pay property tax for years in most cases. Gov Perry wants a guest worker program so they could also pay Federal tax and State withholding. I don’t see it as unreasonable that they be able to pay in-state fees rather than out-of-state fees at Texas colleges if they are bonifed residents and have been paying state sales/property taxes.
The other issue is that no one expects to deport all 10-15 million illegal aliens. We would be better served by encouraging these kids who are well enough integrated and motivated to want to go to college rather than making a point of alienating them. We don’t need to create a subclass. We need to stop the inflow, stop anchor babies, create a guest worker program so we know who’s here and collect tax from them. We need to deport those here who commit crimes,or are on welfare and stop subsidizing all illegal alien health care. The guest worker program could include a very basic health plan. Gov Perry is not a great debater or even a good one but this issue is being marketed and spun to try and drag him down because he is the biggest threat to the Democratic takeover of America. This is not a single issue election and allowing anger to cloud the very real dangers of Mitt the RHINO, a tax, spend, control freak winning the nomination is in a word “stupid”.