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Debunking the Perry Immigration Lie
TownHall ^ | Sept. 25, 2011 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 09/25/2011 10:37:58 AM PDT by Clairity

In this week's GOP Presidential debate, Governor Mitt Romney and Senator Rick Santorum both repeated untruths about Governor Rick Perry's immigration position. It is time to set the record straight.

First let me say, I've not endorsed a candidate and though I've predicted a Perry win in 2012, it is not based on a personal desire, but rather the assessment of all the data that I believe the general election race will be dependent on. I did the same thing in 2006, predicting a Barack Obama win, but by no means endorsing his candidacy.

Second let me also say, this week's debate performance by Governor Rick Perry was bizarre and seemed to run out of complete steam in the final thirty minutes. In fact I was so curious as to the Governor's performance down the stretch I inquired to the Perry campaign to see if the Governor had taken ill, or had some other medical issue arise in the final half hour.

But on Thursday evening it did become clear that the GOP opponents intend to rhetorically bloody Governor Perry as best they can until they begin to be eliminated from the race.

In the debate, Chris Wallace asked a direct question to Mitt Romney regarding the in-state tuition rates of children who live in the state, but happen to have parents who came here illegally.

Mitt Romney replied, "I don't see how it is that a state like Texas--to go to the University of Texas--if you're an illegal alien--you get an in-state tuition discount. D'you know how much that is? It's twenty-two thousand dollars a year. Four years of college you're almost a hundred thousand dollar discount if you're an illegal alien--if you go to the University of Texas. If you're a United States citizen, from any one of the other forty-nine states, you have to pay a hundred thousand dollars more. That doesn't make sense to me. And that kind of magnet, draws people into this country, to get that education, to get that kind of hundred thousand dollar break, it makes no sense..."

I was disappointed that Chris Wallace didn't stop him and make him answer the question he had actually asked him.

Maybe Mitt Romney doesn't realize that many children of illegal aliens aren't illegals themselves. And as long as birth-rite citizenship is the law, anchor babies are protected under the law with equal benefits to all other American citizens.

Maybe Mitt Romney doesn't realize that nearly all of the rest of children of illegals had no choice in whether to live in Texas or not. If they were brought there by parents who were illegal--how is that the child's fault? Is Romney ready to charge those children with crimes? Mass deportations? Even Romney has not pledged to go that far.

Maybe Mitt Romney somehow missed the point that Governor Perry's problem is one that the Federal Government created for him. By refusing to enforce current immigration law, the Obama administration has made life for border states unbelievably difficult. And in some cases the Federal Government is even attempting to choke out state's rights to react to border issues in any way whatsoever.

Maybe Mitt Romney is completely ignorant of what the reality of dealing with the border actually means--in real terms. Gov. Perry had to raise $400 million in state taxes to attempt to shore up the border and do the job that the Feds should be doing.

Or maybe Governor Romney believes he doesn't need any votes from legal Hispanics and legal immigrants who are wrestling with the real issue of being in a position where their family's future is in question.

But to set the record straight, it was the state of Texas, and most specifically its lawfully elected legislature that drafted the legislation and passed it with only 4 votes of 181 possible to vote against it. Yes, Governor Perry signed it into law, but it was a definitively bi-partisan initiative that the people of Texas clearly wanted to see become law.

Additionally, Governor Perry has actual compassion for these children who ended up in his state, outside of their own doing. Educating them gets them working and contributing to the state's treasury faster, and is more meaningful than letting them sit on the sidelines.

And despite what the unusually angry Rick Santorum offered, all the legislation did was allow those children (NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS AT LARGE) to get the same "starting point" in state institutions that all of their classmates got. The stupid argument that Romney and Santorum grew red-faced and spittle-spewing over didn't seem to hold true against Texas where non-Texan students would have to pay $88,000 more than other Texas-raised children. And states discriminate that way against other children from other regions of the country--all the time.

President Obama will need to re-energize the American Hispanic vote in order for him to win re-election. They had left him on the economy, and they were never with him on his values. But Mitt Romney--who vows allegiance to a church that had at its core a racist doctrine until only a couple of decades ago--is verging on alienating other ethnic groups, in part because he is not telling the truth about the Texas legislature's law to allow children (not illegal aliens who crossed the border--the children of) to simply pay the same amount of tuition as the kids they sit next to in class.

In short Perry knows this problem intimately. And it will be a cold day in Hades before he ever signs a federal version of the DREAM Act. He believes in fencing, technology, state's rights, and workplace incentives.

Which more or less means he believes in the same enforcement techniques as all the rest of the GOP field.

And for Santorum and Romney to pretend otherwise is sanctimonious and dishonest.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; gopdebate; illegalimmigration; immigration; obama; perry; perry2012; romney; santorum
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Let me get this straight.

You support granting in state tuition to illegal aliens however, you do not support amnesty?

So therefore, you want the Texas tax payers to pay to educate people who can never legally work in the United States.

That makes a whole lot of sense.


81 posted on 09/25/2011 12:07:46 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Allegra

It is what it is Allegra.


82 posted on 09/25/2011 12:08:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Kids that have demonstrated that they want to excel and who can prove that they are working on citizenship...”

I see.

You support Amnesty for Illegal Aliens?


83 posted on 09/25/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
So therefore, you want the Texas tax payers to pay to educate people who can never legally work in the United States. That makes a whole lot of sense.

Oh yeah there's that little issue...just a technicality...LOL! :oP

84 posted on 09/25/2011 12:10:15 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Ingtar

Facts are funny things and it appears to me you are letting your obvious anti-Perry bias over rule common sense. The author is spot on, due to a Supreme Court ruling Children born here are awarded citizenship by law, not by political expediency or intent to enable them to vote. It is called the Law and we have to change it or deal with it in other ways. Illegal parents are being separated from their children every day in this country and right fully so, the children are legally her but not the parents. IMHO the law needs to be changed back to what it was pre SC decision to only citizens children are given the right by birth, this is why so many women come to this country and have anchor babies today.

Perry did NOT create the problem but his logic is sound, the Children, love or hate the law are legal citizens and entitled to all the same rights as any other American. Each state is Sovereign and they can deal with it each in their own way, but the root of the issue is Federal in nature.

The obvious solution is to put someone in the White house whose INTENT is not to award citizenship across the board in a political ploy but to fix the real issues and let the citizens decide on what the path to becoming an American is and enforce it, again a FEDERAL responsibility.


85 posted on 09/25/2011 12:10:48 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Niteflyr

Sarah never ran for Governor in a border state either.

Doesn’t change the fact that Perry and Palin’s position on border security and illegal immigration is the same.


86 posted on 09/25/2011 12:12:58 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I doubt very much that Sarah Palin supports amnesty, citizenship, welfare, or any other rewards for illegal immigrants.


87 posted on 09/25/2011 12:13:16 PM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Where’s a link?


88 posted on 09/25/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: KansasGirl
Doesn’t change the fact that Perry and Palin’s position on border security and illegal immigration is the same.

Show me a transcript or video where Palin wants in-state tuition for illegals... and where she says those who don't agree are heartless...

89 posted on 09/25/2011 12:16:12 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: plain talk

Clever of you to ignore the logic.

Children need not suffer from their parents illegal actions, but neither should they benefit. Letting the kids keep the banks money is eerily similar to letting the illegals benefit at tax payer expense.


90 posted on 09/25/2011 12:18:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (The MSM will not pick my candidate--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run.--)
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To: KansasGirl
“Doesn’t change the fact that Perry and Palin’s position on border security and illegal immigration is the same.”

Do illegal aliens in Alaska pay in state tuition?

91 posted on 09/25/2011 12:19:16 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Ingtar
This author sure is putting a lot of lipstick on that pig.

He's also pushing the "it's all about Romney and Perry now" meme. Did you notice that?

92 posted on 09/25/2011 12:19:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Clairity

Is that your class picture in post 14.


93 posted on 09/25/2011 12:19:23 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

That’s not even a quote from Palin. Forget it.


94 posted on 09/25/2011 12:20:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Niteflyr

Rick Perry is solidly AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

You can try to misconstrue things with pictures and people can get their panties in a twist over this tuition bill that passed the legislature almost unanimously, but the fact remains.

Perry is solidly against illegal immigration.
The guy has had to actually touch these matters as a Governor of a border state.
That doesn’t make him an illegal lover.
It makes him experienced, unlike 99% of his yapping dog detractors.


95 posted on 09/25/2011 12:20:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
You can try to misconstrue things with pictures

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while now....wow..."don't confuse the issue with facts and photographs"....

96 posted on 09/25/2011 12:23:34 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Allegra

Houston has a pretty good lead on NO.

26/17


97 posted on 09/25/2011 12:25:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: trumandogz

What part of “prove that they are working on citizenship” is amnesty?


98 posted on 09/25/2011 12:26:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: iowamark

Who know what she thinks?
She is not in the arena.


99 posted on 09/25/2011 12:28:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Clairity
Last thing we need is another empty suit RINO as our nominee. Haven't we learned our lesson with McCain, Dole, etc?

How will Rick Perry advance the conservative cause? Will Rick Perry's coattails result in taking control of the senate and building a super-majority in the house?

The answer is no. A President Perry will only mark time, like George W. Bush, and set the state for another liberal/socialist victory in four years time.

We need a real conservative as our nominee. One who will be elected in a landslide and have the necessary coattails to gain control of the Senate and build a much larger majority in the House.

Rick Perry and Mitt Romney will not do that. They are both very liberal and will result in a mixed Congress that will ensure there is no forward motion with respect to conservatism.

100 posted on 09/25/2011 12:30:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (All my replies get posted to AttackWatch)
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