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Illegal Immigration Collapse
Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/24/11 | editors

Posted on 09/25/2011 10:11:11 AM PDT by Eva

To listen to the recent Republican Presidential debates, you'd think illegal immigration was the biggest threat to the U.S. economy—not to mention to the rule of law, our social fabric and national security. We hate to spoil the political reverie, but the real immigration story these days is how many fewer illegal migrants are trying to get into the land of the free.

That's the news from the Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years. For fiscal 2010, arrests were 463,000, down from 724,000 in 2008—a one-third decline in two years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; gopdebate; illegalimmigration; immigration; palin; perry; wsj
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To: Eva

If there are 30 million illegals in this country its enough to create some 50 congressional districts by their mere presence alone.

Anyone who wants to look the other way may as well just be true to themselves and vote democrat. They’re about to have a permanent majority anyway.


81 posted on 09/25/2011 11:25:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I thought the WSJ gave up the ‘nobody cares but you’ tact some time ago, after it became clearly apparent that a great many of us do.


82 posted on 09/25/2011 11:25:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kabar

First of all the Pew poll doesn’t seem to separate Mexicans, from Guatemalan, Columbians or any other Central or South American country because they all come through Mexico.

How about if you just lump all the Muslims in European countries together? Think that would change the result? There have been articles about how the influx of Muslims into Germany (mostly from Turkey, but not all) has lowered the standards of the German educational system. It won’t be long before the deleterious effects of not educating immigrants shows on the German economy.


83 posted on 09/25/2011 11:28:37 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

I’m not talking about the Governor all he can do is turn over all illegals to ICE. We have to get tough on illegal immigration!


84 posted on 09/25/2011 11:29:19 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Eva
The point is that the illegal immigration problem is the least of our problems right now.

This isn't settled by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact, as big a strain as they put on the social services web, the disproportionate amount of crime they commit, the likelyhood that that tens of thousands are participating in elections (and you know who they're voting for), it would be easy to argue that illegals are among the largest half dozen threats we are currently facing.

85 posted on 09/25/2011 11:31:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: federal__reserve

“Problem is not legal immigration, it is illegal immigration. Majority of illegals are under-educated. They cost billions every year in welfare of some form from tax payers. We have benefited immensely from legal immigration based on qualifications and our needs, such as Dr. Werner Von Braun, and millions of doctors, engineers, programmers and technicians.”

Legal immigration is a huge problem. We are being swarmed by over 100,000 legal immigrants a month, month after month. There are not enough jobs in the Obummer depression for Americans. We don’t need any more immigrants.

And while I am all for bringing in as many Werner Von Brauns as we can, the majority seem to be third worlders with about a K to 2nd grade education who don’t know what a toilet is. Not exactly the kind of immigrant pool that is going to help us retain 1st world status.


86 posted on 09/25/2011 11:33:51 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: Eva
Immigration, legal and illegal, has had and will continue to have a major and far-reaching impact across a broad spectrum of existential challenges that confront this nation, e.g., national security, the economy/global competitiveness, jobs, health care, taxes, energy independence, education, entitlement reform, law enforcement, social welfare programs, physical infrastructure, the environment, civil liberties, and a continued sense of national identity/shared sense of endeavor.

Immigration is the defining issue of our time with enormous implications for the future of this nation and the preservation of our patrimony. Yet, seldom will you hear immigration mentioned by our political and intellectual elites in connection with solutions to these challenges.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977% (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.

87 posted on 09/25/2011 11:36:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Eva
You don’t even know what you are talking about or are purposely mis-interpreting the situation.

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Perry's running for President - he'd better either be in favor of enforcing the law or not get elected. It's that simple.

Oh, by the way, did Perry steal tax dollars from you? Would Texas be better off with a whole lot of uneducated illegals, or more educated illegals? The concept of educating those that the feds won’t deport seems to me to be making the best of a bad situation.

No, Perry didn't steal tax dollars from ME - he stole them from Texas taxpayers. Just as the federal government does to the 53% of us Americans that actually pay taxes. Texas wouldn't be better off with a whole lot of uneducated illegals, it would be better off with NO illegals. They ain't there because they want to bust their butts for a few dollars an hour - they're there because they're getting all kinds of freebies, courtesy of the government. If Perry doesn't have the stones to denounce that, he ain't worth electing. PERIOD!

I quit donating to the Republican party back in 2006 when it was clear that the party wanted to support amnesty. Their support for amnesty is why we have the worthless communist street punk in the white house today. Why would somebody want to continue down a losing path?

88 posted on 09/25/2011 11:36:39 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Eva
...but the real immigration story these days is how many fewer illegal migrants are trying to get into the land of the free

Ha! They must be dangnear all here! They running out of Mexicans down there or something?

89 posted on 09/25/2011 11:36:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: skeeter
This isn't settled by any stretch of the imagination.

No its not, and the fact that they're desperate to talk about something else shows how willing they are to sell out Americans.
90 posted on 09/25/2011 11:36:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: ckilmer

One line in a debate that is up to interpretation and you want to throw the candidate under the bus, or do you just want to promote another candidate.

Focus on the real issues and the person that you are promoting, don’t just keep attacking other GOP candidates.


91 posted on 09/25/2011 11:38:04 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
For fiscal 2010, arrests were 463,000, down from 724,000 in 2008—a one-third decline in two years.

Is this a result of fewer attempts or worse enforcement? Fewer arrests means fewer arrests, not fewer people trying to come in.

92 posted on 09/25/2011 11:38:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eva

Illegal immigrants are clogging the schools, jails and welfare programs and costing us hundreds of billions per year.


93 posted on 09/25/2011 11:38:48 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: tallyhoe

Perry has been calling for the feds to do their job, he even asked for troops on the border. That’s about all he can do.


94 posted on 09/25/2011 11:40:15 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Smokin' Joe

I noticed that, too. The fact is that the feds set the rules about stopping and arresting suspected illegals.


95 posted on 09/25/2011 11:41:48 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

“Meyer, you fail to recognize that it is the job of the federal government to deport the illegals and if the federal government refuses to do its job, those illegals are here to stay.”

So if Ricardo is elected President he can cast aside the bonds he was bound down by as governor and really get tough on immigration? (Even against people with different sounding names and even at the risk of being called heartless?)


96 posted on 09/25/2011 11:41:55 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: momincombatboots
But employers would then be forced to pay FICA and SS. Seems like reducing the costs of hiring Americans would work best

They can't be sued by 'recovering' addicts under the ADA if those people are here illegally, they can't be snagged for unemployment, they can't be sued for not being 'sensitive' enough about whatever the trial lawyer comes up with...

If we hadn't created such a crappy environment to hire anyone in, maybe Americans would hire fewer Mexicans.

97 posted on 09/25/2011 11:42:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eva
I’ve read that Jews were once turned away from our borders, also. Do you think they should have had a bounty put on them?

Nobody should be crossing the border unless they're here for a short visit, or are able to actually become a citizen of the country. Anybody that smuggles across is an INVADER. Can you not see the obvious?

98 posted on 09/25/2011 11:43:53 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Eva

That is your opinion. And, a pretty mixed up one if I might say. These ‘graduates’ cannot legally (at least not yet) hold government jobs where they need a security clearance, they, and for civilian jobs their employers would violate FEDERAL LAW on completing applications and falsely verifying citizenship.

This is additional forced taxation for ‘feel-good’ politics that have ONLY ONE AIM - to add new Demcocrat illegal voters to their rolls. You can shrug your shoulders at it, but I will not. Ever.


99 posted on 09/25/2011 11:45:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kabar

“One common argument for not doing anything about illegal immigration or even for offering illegal immigrants amnesty is that there is a shortage of the type of labor provided by illegal immigrants.”

There is a shortage of workers for that type of labor because it is illegal to pay people what that labor is worth.

In other news, unemployment is over 9%.

Go figure.


100 posted on 09/25/2011 11:45:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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