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Illegal Immigration Collapse
Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/24/11 | editors

Posted on 09/25/2011 10:11:11 AM PDT by Eva

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To: Niteflyr

Former poster “Protoss” LOL


161 posted on 09/25/2011 1:25:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
Former poster “Protoss” LOL

Ohhh...:oP

162 posted on 09/25/2011 1:26:16 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: 100American
No need to get defensive. I'm just using the opportunity to get the info out there... since so many defenders of the status quo love to use the 'why dont you go pick the lettuce' retort.

Its less than 5% BTW.

163 posted on 09/25/2011 1:28:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Eva

They’re helping Romney...and Obama!


164 posted on 09/25/2011 1:42:13 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: skeeter

No problem my Conservative American friend, we are on the same team just playing different positions.

And unfortunately we here are ALL on the defensive against the mongrel hordes of Progressive Socialists who seek the ultimate failure of this country.

And yes I meant to use mongrel for good reason, the Mongols or their ilk are another battle yet to be fully engaged


165 posted on 09/25/2011 1:42:48 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Eva
I still like Cain. He at least hasn’t gone on the attack.

He hasn't, and it's one of the reasons I like him, he focused like a laser beam on Obama. But I've noticed lately that a lot of his supporters are beginning to attack anyone that asks a question. That's the fastest way to lose support.

166 posted on 09/25/2011 1:49:05 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Eva

It gives them hope.


167 posted on 09/25/2011 1:51:20 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Eva
Would Texas be better off with a whole lot of uneducated illegals, or more educated illegals?

High School seems a pretty good perk already. Perhaps they should have to sort out the illegal status first before they're given a college education because otherwise they'll always be a potential liability for any law abiding employer.

168 posted on 09/25/2011 1:54:34 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Eva

I interact extensively with illegals. I see their income statements, their tax returns, their bills...

Many of them have GOOD jobs. Some of them make more money than I do. It’s past the point where illegals are “just picking fruit.” Ooohhhh, how they cheat on their taxes. I have heard, among tax industry people, that the actual figure lost to illegals by the additional tax credit is more like $7 billion, not $3.5 billion.

Now, there is the flip side for illegals who have no education, and especially for the females who have baby after baby out of wedlock. No need for me to post the stats on the majority percentages of illegal’s families who are sucking our system dry through food stamps and welfare for their anchor babies.

Many illegals are moving around the country right now in search of work. Unemployment and underemployment is very bad. People are not bothering to come illegally right now as much because our economy is in the toilet. When the economy picks up again, if it ever does I suppose, illegals will be pouring in just like before. Some illegals are returning due to lack of work, but very few. A part-time crappy job here is better paying and has better conditions than the best they could hope for in their south of the border stinkhole.


169 posted on 09/25/2011 1:59:42 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Eva

The fact is illegal immigration is down because our economy is doing poorly, not because of Hussein’s great work in enforcing the borders.

Employers who hire illegals ought to be penalized. Yes, this will be slightly inflationary.


170 posted on 09/25/2011 2:13:46 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: glorgau; kabar

Wahh! I am a store clerk who cannot hire people for slave wages! I need to import some slaves whose children will receive their education, health benefits, welfare, and food stamps on the taxpayer’s dime!

It’s a win-win for everyone except Americans who want jobs and taxpayers. people who pay taxes. Good thing that soon in America there won’t be many Americans who want jobs or actually pay taxes.


171 posted on 09/25/2011 2:13:46 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Clairity

He’s also pro-illegal and calls me heartless. I will not vote for him period. If he is the nominee, I will sit at home rather than vote for another “Mexicans are more important than Americans” politician.


172 posted on 09/25/2011 2:17:32 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: McGavin999
The same is true of supporters of the other GOP candidates here - way too defensive and alot less positive than they should be.

A nasty defensive disposition equals lower powers of persuasion.

173 posted on 09/25/2011 2:18:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: oldbill; Eva

Great post.

And Eva, you need to read it over and over until it sinks in.


174 posted on 09/25/2011 2:19:21 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: darkwing104; 50mm; TheOldLady
Zot! Ping (2011.. retread?!)


175 posted on 09/25/2011 2:22:14 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Eva

No you make their lives freaking miserable, so bad that they either move back to Mexico or some other state. What you do NOT do is reward them.

Illegal Mexicans should be treated as the crap that they are. They should be rousted and arrested whenever possible till they get the message.

But no, we give them cash paid for by Americans and jobs when we have almost 20% unemployment? Totally stupid.


176 posted on 09/25/2011 2:24:31 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Eva

Agreed that in-state tuition is not the biggest issue on illegal immigration. However there are also bigger ENTICEMENTS to come here illegally. That includes taxpayer funded maternity benefits, free education K-12, food stamps, hospital emergency room benefits, and worst of all anchor babies. I will not support any candidate who is for any of the above.

A country which can not protect its borders will cease to be a viable country within a generation or two.


177 posted on 09/25/2011 2:28:01 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Peace through strength has worked better than peace via appeasement in history.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Amazing how amnesty types are here again...this time to hype stumbling Perry

We fight this over 5 years ago here and I got banned for 18 months but we won....this forum now understands where uncontrolled immigration takes us

So screw these emo RINOS here
God bless Texas but to hell with hispanic pandering....doesn’t work anyhow


178 posted on 09/25/2011 2:29:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: Clairity

Are you a Mexican? Cause you take their side on every issue AGAINST Americans. We used to call these type of people traitors.


179 posted on 09/25/2011 2:29:39 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Eva

The story of American jobs and labor is deeply intertwined with predatory Federal, state and local taxation and regulation....

South Koreans sleep soundly on their border with NORKS because of American Taxpayer dollars and the American GI.

Why can’t Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonans and Californians?....BECAUSE

Illegal immigration is THE KEY to the perpetuation of the status quo in DC......

Predatory tax and regulatory policies-actions that basically serve to perpetuate and grow governments-leave what business is left in the country seeking disposable labor.

Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation. Interestingly, that is WHY the Feds encourage in-state tuition etc for illegals under-the-table -their presence providing disposable labor allows Federal, State and local regulatory and tax excess in the status quo to continue

Immigration is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.

Real”leadership” is that which will place Flyover Country’s interest ahead of the Feds....haven’t yet seen anything meaningful anywhere from anybody to indicate that might happen. We have just one more election cycle to make that happen via rule of law. Otherwise its the end of the run for America.


180 posted on 09/25/2011 2:32:43 PM PDT by mo
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