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If anyone is serious about this subject, they should read the whole piece.

Marketplace based solutions. Loosened regulations. Reducing the strain on taxpayer supported programs.

Sure, let's all gang up on Perry and the legislature for studying this approach because it has a "scary" name.

1 posted on 09/25/2011 12:37:21 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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* Here's the author's biography of this WAPO piece:

Sarah Kliff covers health policy for the Washington Post. Sarah joined the Post in August 2011 from Politico, where she authored Politico Pulse, a daily health policy tipsheet. Prior to Politico, Sarah was a staff writer at Newsweek covering national politics. Her writing has appeared in National Geographic, the BBC, Humanities Magazine and St. Louis Magazine. She is the recipient of fellowships from the Kaiser Family Foundation and University of Southern California Annenberg School of Journalism.

* Her bio on Politico states:

She also covered the 2008 election, traveling with Joe Biden and contributing reports to multiple Newsweek cover stories. She has also written for National Geographic, St. Louis Magazine and Humanities magazine.

Kliff attended Washington University in St. Louis, where she was editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, Student Life. She grew up in Seattle and Toronto, cities that have left her a big fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs and coffee.

2 posted on 09/25/2011 12:46:38 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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It’s funny how the US (Anglos) always get stuck with the bill.

Why’s that?


3 posted on 09/25/2011 12:47:10 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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And what was the plan to force Mexicans to buy it? Of course I’m assuming all the illegals in Texas are free to buy medical insurance for themselves. So why don’t they?


4 posted on 09/25/2011 12:50:56 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; Norm Lenhart; abigailsmybaby; jospehm20; Reagan Man; RitaOK; ...

((( PING ))) “binational health insurance” & Rick Perry.


5 posted on 09/25/2011 12:54:39 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Ryan: Obama "a pyromaniac in a field of straw men" / Andre Carson's racism goes unchecked)
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In another thread, some FReepers shed some light on this topic after I joined others in freaking out over it.

Yet, here is the thing that bothers me: “.” Rather, he pointed to a newly passed Texas law, which directed the state to explore allowing private health plans to cover services in Texas and Mexico. Those plans would then be available to any Mexican national or American citizen working within 62 miles of the Texas-Mexico border. ...”

As was pointed out to me, this was long before Obamacare. Fair enough. But what if this plan were put in place (as I understand, it wasn’t)? We have Obamacare NOW. Would these Mexicans who bought healthcare THEN simply go on with their purchased healthcare, or would Obama want them to be covered, as well, because people shouldn’t be ‘discriminated against’ or something?

Perry himself DID use the phrase “ the feasibility of bi-national health insurance” and I am glad this article and other FReepers have clarified that.

But the fact is we are in an Obamacare world now. Perry couldn’t have predicted that—fair enough. But he pushed for this, and what troubles me is, what if he got what he was pushing for? Would we then be expected to fund these workers under Obamacare?

I’m not saying, I’m asking.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 12:57:23 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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Does Mexico not already have socialized or a form of socialized medicine? If so, then why the need for this plan? And are American health insurance companies not allowed to sell insurance anywhere but the U.S.???? I’m on my cell and not able to read this whole article, so can someone enlighten me on this?? please and thank you....


7 posted on 09/25/2011 1:00:06 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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See, you can lead them to water but you can’t make them think. Sorry about the pun.

Now, we’ve got comments about illegals who had nothing to do with this proposal and ‘forcing’ Mexicans to buy insurance.

You can spell it out but some people aren’t going to read it or understand the issue. Oh well, hopefully just a few.


8 posted on 09/25/2011 1:00:53 AM PDT by KingKongCobra
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Sure, let's all gang up on Perry and the legislature for studying this approach because it has a "scary" name.

How superior of you...that's it...we are put off by "scary" names....now we have Perry supporters talking down to us like Perry does....

9 posted on 09/25/2011 1:01:09 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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What the hell is wrong with you illegal lover? Get lost.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 1:01:29 AM PDT by bobby.223
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The fact of all Texas state universities practicing racial preferences highlights something else about Perry’s instate tuition for illegals: it means that illegals get preference for a $100K subsidy over white and Asian legal Texas residents.


23 posted on 09/25/2011 1:35:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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This must be a joke. Mexicans don’t PAY for insurance, not health, not car, or life. I worked with a lot of them and not one of them would PAY for insurance even if was $20 a week.

They all know they get FREE care at the hospital. They jump and run in car accidents, and their relatives sue us if they die!


32 posted on 09/25/2011 1:56:08 AM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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But Rick Santorum goes for the alarmist “sound bite” lie.


36 posted on 09/25/2011 2:08:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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So any Mexican living within 62 miles of Texas could buy health insurance that would give them access to US doctors and hospitals? When already we have shortages here in the US?

And the “benefit” to us is that it would thus make it easier for Mexicans to thus come and work in the US? Sure, I see why insurance companies would want to have their market expanded. And of course any industry that shifts costs to taxpayers by hiring illegals would be in favor of it too. But the answer is to get illegals out of the country and thus away from free access to our hospitals, not to increase the problem!


46 posted on 09/25/2011 2:47:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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My first reaction is: How are the people in mexico going to afford to pay for insurance? This might start out as reasonable plan but in six months the American taxpayer will be footing the bill for the whole thing.


51 posted on 09/25/2011 3:44:42 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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The report cited is outright falsifying the “potential cost savings” by goal seeking their data sources or testing criteria:

“Last, binational health plans probably would cut into reliance on public programs, particularly the Children’s Health Insurance Program, the same report concluded. “Proponents saw binational health plans as a new, affordable private health insurance that could replace the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP),” the report says. “Savings in tax dollars would be generated with a decreased number of children on SCHIP and revenues from health care would increase (due to reduction in uncompensated care).” .”


52 posted on 09/25/2011 4:00:49 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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Sure, let's all gang up on Perry and the legislature for studying this approach because it has a "scary" name.

Yep - too many Freepers have gone bonkers and are seeing Mexican Conspiracies everywhere Perry goes. They seem to read the misleading/lieing articles really well and discount the actual facts.

54 posted on 09/25/2011 4:25:35 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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Yeah, we have a country south of us that is in nearly complete anarchy but let's try to do insurance business with them.

Ignore the widespread corruption from top to bottom in Mexico.

Ignore the truckloads of bodies dumped into the Mexican streets and heads on pikes down there.

Mexico is just the picture of business enterprise.

Let's do some bidness !

The bidness we should do with them should be focused upon attacks of our Predator, unmanned aircraft against their professional murderers killing U.S. citizens and U.S. Border Patrol agents.

The only health insurance we should be concentrating on in Mexico is insuring every member of the Mexican drug cartels remains constantly fearful for his own health.

56 posted on 09/25/2011 4:33:41 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Where is the middle ground on insolvency of the United States government?)
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Don’t forget that Perry as Ag Commish also wrote to Hillary to praise her efforts, and ask her to include rural communities in her developing nationalized health care plans.


62 posted on 09/25/2011 7:35:28 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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Nice try except that it’s part of the whole plan for the North American Union. Basically it’s making one “nation” out of the entire North American Continent. Mexico, The United States, and Canada. They have already signed agreements and are organizing a “Parliament”. The NAU would then come under the UN and the world would have a “One World Government”. Why do you really think neither the Dems or the Repubs work to close the border? Can we all say Bye, Bye US sovereignty?


64 posted on 09/25/2011 9:18:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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