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CERN scientists 'break the speed of light'
The Telegraph ^ | Sept. 22, 2011 | Uncredited

Posted on 09/22/2011 6:57:08 PM PDT by danielmryan

Scientists said on Thursday they recorded particles travelling faster than light - a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's fundamental laws of the universe.

Antonio Ereditato, spokesman for the international group of researchers, said that measurements taken over three years showed neutrinos pumped from CERN near Geneva to Gran Sasso in Italy had arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.

"We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing," he said. "We now want colleagues to check them independently."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: einstein; electrogravitics; lightspeed; physics; relativity; scientism; stringtheory
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It might be the result of a hidden measurement error, but if not...it's the new Michaelson-Morley experiment. It's real news for any physics buff, provided it's confirmed.

One question comes to mind: why didn't the neutrinos travel backwards in time? Or did they, adding to their speed?

1 posted on 09/22/2011 6:57:15 PM PDT by danielmryan
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arrived 60 nanoseconds quicker than light would have done.

Interesting article. As it turns out, they ordered the particles from Dominos, they did actually arrive that fast, but a teenaged driver killed a family of 4 getting them there. Sort of a mixed bag of results.

2 posted on 09/22/2011 7:02:39 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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OH SURE ... but how does that effect Man Made Global Warming?

We only want Important stuff not this nano second BS

Scientists should do “Stuff to Save the Planet”

/ Sarc

TT


3 posted on 09/22/2011 7:03:14 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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“We have high confidence in our results. We have checked and rechecked for anything that could have distorted our measurements but we found nothing,”


This from the guys who recently came up with this:

“There is a new measurement of the size of the proton and it turns out that protons are smaller than we thought they were.”

http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2010/07/12/the-size-of-the-proton/


4 posted on 09/22/2011 7:04:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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“We now want colleagues to check them independently.”

How do they do that without the same equipment?


5 posted on 09/22/2011 7:04:09 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: Onelifetogive

Pizza On Time!

TT


6 posted on 09/22/2011 7:04:13 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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And until now, I thought it was only Black Friday shoppers who had exceeded light speed.


7 posted on 09/22/2011 7:04:16 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Onelifetogive

I heard you get faster delivery now because they FAX you the pizza.

The funny part is that it still tastes the same.


8 posted on 09/22/2011 7:05:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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OMG, I’ve got to post this to FreeRepublic! Oh, wait...

Lol, that’s literally what went through my mind when I saw your thread.

Nice find. Very interesting. Thanks for posting. :-)


9 posted on 09/22/2011 7:06:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Neutrino's have no mass, right? No mass, no problem with FTL.
10 posted on 09/22/2011 7:06:39 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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How do they do that without the same equipment?

Heck, all you need is a radar gun and a cop wearing a protective suit made of unobtanium.

11 posted on 09/22/2011 7:07:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Someone is looking for a grant.

Call me a luddite, but Albert's mathematics have stood the test of many times (no pun intended).

12 posted on 09/22/2011 7:08:25 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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So now we are made up of even less stuff than we thought.

amazing and wow ...

TT


13 posted on 09/22/2011 7:08:25 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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14 posted on 09/22/2011 7:08:35 PM PDT by twister881
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What I want to know is how did they ‘tag’ the neutrinos so that they could differentiate them from all the other neutrinos that are running laps around CERN?


15 posted on 09/22/2011 7:11:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Maybe it’s not the neutrinos that are going faster, it’s just that light has slowed down.

: )


16 posted on 09/22/2011 7:12:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunTzuWu

Well, there are plenty of cases in which particles can go faster than light, in the sense that in certain mediums, neutrinos can pass through without interaction while photons do not. Take for instance a neutrino leaving the core of the Sun. The neutrino will leave the photosphere of the Sun before the light energy from the core will. Why? The neutrino will hardly interact, if at all, with any of the matter within the Sun’s interior, while the light will get absorbed and re-emitted. I will assume that this article is referring to the speed of light in a vacuum, however, and feel that that is probably an improvement. However, I would like to hear on the news if we can ever develop some way of moving matter through hyperspace, or something of the sort, so that we can go faster than light and visit other Stars. But then again, that’s my sci-fi/fantasy section of my brain running again!


17 posted on 09/22/2011 7:12:16 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: TexasTransplant

Guess I can skip that diet I was on.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 7:13:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Looks like these Neutrinos traveled about 6,000 meters a second faster than light. I wonder if they could tell which direction time flows with these particles?


19 posted on 09/22/2011 7:13:41 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Heck, we Americans new way back in the early seventies that those new Torinos were fast.

I wish Ford hadn’t quit making them.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 7:14:23 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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