5 biological kids
Sorry, just couldn't resist
Posted on 09/22/2011 2:55:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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Broadcast time: 9pm EDT/6pm PDT
The NINE(!) Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Jon Huntsman
Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
Gary Johnson
Johnson served as governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2002. He founded what would become one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico. He has competed in several triathlons and climbed Mount Everest.
So you’re saying she favors Cain? Hmmmmmmm
[what OUR OWN CITIZEN’S CHILDREN must pay DOUBLE or more, for]
Instate tuition is what our own Texas children pay for college! Where are they paying ‘double’?
If you live ‘instate’ you pay instate. If you move to Texas you have to live here one year to pay instate.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/perry-defends-state-tuition-students-no-matter-how-you-got-state
We are required by the government to educate these kids through highschool - have to. Who is going to remove these people from the United States? Obama won’t do it.
Obama Halts Automatic Deportation of Illegals
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/backdoor-amnesty-obama-halts-automatic-deportation-of-illegals/
I don’t believe much Bachmann says anymore. Perry is a father of a daughter, do you honestly believe he would deliberately initiate something harmful to kids for money? Something they were able to opt out of if they chose to do so. Junior High kids are engaging in oral sex at a very high rate and they are passing on the HPV virus. [not STDs]
It is estimated that up to 80% of women will have the HPV virus in not too many years.
There are those posting false things here every day. Often, if you research what they write it is twisted. Deliberately.
“Ok, if you are going to go way back in time, like when Rick Perry was an actual Democrat, how about Perry thinking Al Gore was wonderful? Hmmmmmmm?”
Could be worse. They could’ve campaigned for Jimmy Carter!
Romney was decent and a good debater.
Problem: I don’t trust him for one minute ...
and I don’t want an establishment retread.
Perry needs to get his answers in line on the border issue... the gardisal thing is nothing.
He’s not the open borders guy they tried to paint him at all.
And what was with Santorum? He was horrible. I wondered if he might be shilling for Romney by attacking Perry so hard. Think that’s possible?
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“And watching Perry speak was like watching Palin respond to Katie Couric. Isn’t it about time we picked a sharp person for a change?”
IMO, when it comes to consistently providing intelligent, well-articulated positions, it’s Newt.
Wow, about a gillion (thats greater than a trillion) posts here. Here is my .02 worth, FWIW (probably not much) evaluation of the debate placing in order of performance:
1. Romney - clear winner in his duking it out with Perry; made himself sound to the right of Ronald Reagan (he needs a reality check here); very composed and quick witted and looked at Perry when he was speaking to him; went thru his plan in an organized fashion, unlike any of the other candidates. He will likely overtake Perry in the polls real soon.
2/3. Cain/Gingrich - tie for common sense approaches and quick wits but not much opportunity to expand on their plans. One of them (preferably Newt) needs to go and endorse the other guy. You’ve heard of the great white hope - well without Palin, Cain is our great black hope.
4. Huntsman - came across as the most concerned personally (as opposed to politically) about where we are headed; masked some of his liberal views from previous debates and was by far the most serious of the candidates. He also came across and probably is the most honest of the batch. Stealing support from Romney would be a best result here, but that’s not likely. He probably needs to bail.
5. Paul - avoided major flash points for the most part this time around (the strait jacket was apparently on real tight). He could be a beneficiary of Perry/Bachmann crash and burns.
6. Santorum - lost his conservative credentials when he avoided the right to work question; did not effectively answer the Afghanistan/Iraq troop question (half right and half wrong). He needs to get out of the race; he has NO chance whatsoever.
7. Perry - an absolute disaster; Obama would mop the floor with him, clean his clock, etc. etc.; irrespective of his idiotic defense of state tuition for wetbacks (the Texas Dream Act), on most issues he was rambling, mumbling, trying to think of what to say. He looked down at the podium rather than looking at Romney when he was talking to him (totally outclassed by Romney there). Realistically, he should be last but since everybody was after him, I felt a little sorry for him. Several weeks ago he was my first choice after Palin. Not any more after three successive debates where he has performed in the bottom tier. Tonight, most of the dais made him look like a liberal flip-flopper. Romney actually looked more conservative.
8. Bachmann - was almost a non-entity there; droned again about five kids, repeal Obamacare (which the President cannot do, Romney correctly phrased it as executive order); she needs to get out of the race and practice up for 2016 or 2020; totally one dimensional; she did shine on the religion question though. Strongest conservative but among the weakest performers.
9. Johnson - plagiarized Rush Limbaugh’s show from earlier today when Rush said that about his dog. Johnson didn’t have the common courtesy to give Rush the credit for it. Liars have no place here. He needs to get back to Santa Fe and get in the hot tub (ie get out of the race)
If you’ve heard the theme song from Mighty Mouse (all you old timers) then just sub Sarah Palin for Mighty Mouse, because if she doesn’t get in soon (or Cain or Gingrich don’t get wings), then the Romney bandwagon is gonna take off, like it or not, and I don’t like it. Perry has become like Bachmann - not ready for prime time. The wheels on the stop Romney bus are getting close to falling off.
“And what was with Santorum? He was horrible. I wondered if he might be shilling for Romney by attacking Perry so hard. Think that’s possible?”
it’s sad because I agree with him on almost everything but he’s just sad.
I had missed the first part of the debate and am watching it now. I think I know why Romney scored so high in this debate. It was Romney going into detail about how illegals getting in state tuition get a $100,000.00 discount over 4 years of college that a non resident citizen would not get. Then when Perry said that people didn’t have a heart and got booed... the writing was on the wall.
In the minds of most voters, it’s not associated with the economic problems. Maybe it is a real factor, but it isn’t a top tier issue this election.
Maybe it should be. But it isn’t.
Wow- you hit the mark! I agree, esp. the points you made:
1. Romney - clear winner in his duking it out with Perry; made himself sound to the right of Ronald Reagan (he needs a reality check here); very composed and quick witted and looked at Perry when he was speaking to him; went thru his plan in an organized fashion, unlike any of the other candidates. He will likely overtake Perry in the polls real soon.
2/3. Cain/Gingrich - tie for common sense approaches and quick wits but not much opportunity to expand on their plans. One of them (preferably Newt) needs to go and endorse the other guy. You’ve heard of the great white hope - well without Palin, Cain is our great black hope.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part1_side_2/
I would like for Newt to tam up with Cain. He could teach Cain what Cain would need to know and hopefully Cain could help keep Newt in the straight and narrow.
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That’s some good logic! I am leaning Newt mebbe Cain, I haven’t given up on Perry yet. I was leaning Perry and I thought I would be on the Perry wagon tonight. But now I’m back at Newt, Perry, Cain. It was Perry, Newt, Cain—I am not completely down with the 9/9/9 plan, though it is better than our current system.
Welcome. I am officially supporting Herman Cain tonight as well, a) in his own right, and b) to block the establishment in a “STOP ROMNEY” movement, that must begin today behind a united Conservative candidate. That candidate is Herman Cain.
“I will take any R in the WH and I am going to start focusing on the Senate.”
Exactly. Without a conservative majority in Congress it won’t matter nearly as much who the R president is.
You tell so many you’ve lost your ability to discern the truth. Go away.. I wasn’t responding to you crazy lady.
“I think I know why Romney scored so high in this debate. It was Romney going into detail about how illegals getting in state tuition get a $100,000.00 discount over 4 years of college that a non resident citizen would not get. Then when Perry said that people didn’t have a heart and got booed... the writing was on the wall.”
I knew this was going to happen. Romney is not a dumb guy and if he can find a weakness, he will make you really pay for it. He’s going to go non-stop on this issue while MB is still fixated on gardasil.
And you honestly don’t believe the majority of them are eligible for government grants. They have Pell Grants (federal, we all pay that), there are grants for children who are the first in their family to go to college, for every minority group, for children of certain income levels. If they don’t get a free ride they get pretty damn close! All because their parents broke the law and dropped a baby out, making them a citizen. It’s not their fault, but it is their parents.
Life is hard. Among our own citizens we have children who are living an impossible life with parents who are addicts, who live their lives in the foster system, and children whose single parents are the 3rd or 4th generations of dependents. They’re our citizens and we don’t put the same effort into them. Let’s fix the system to help ourselves, to restore independence and respect to our own citizens, then we can worry about children who are being taught (by parents and a wholly sympathetic US Government...that includes TX) that breaking the law is okay.
Imagine the lesson in citizenship their children would get if they did it the right way. The sins of the father DO affect the children. We’re supposed to feel evil because we don’t want to do more for them than we do for our own citizens. The only way it’s going to stop is through tough love.
Cindie
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