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Particles recorded moving faster than light: CERN
Reuters ^ | September 22, 2011 | Robert Evans

Posted on 09/22/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by John W

An international team of scientists has recorded neutrino particles traveling faster than the speed of light, a spokesman for the researchers said on Thursday -- in what could be a challenge to one of the fundamental rules of physics.

If confirmed, the discovery would overturn a key part of Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that nothing in the universe can travel faster than light.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cern; fasterthanlight; neutrino; speedoflight
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To: LonePalm

How many rods is that?


121 posted on 09/22/2011 5:43:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: John W

The particles in question were served subpoenas from Darrell Issa’s office to testify on Fast & Furious.


122 posted on 09/22/2011 5:49:29 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

If they are Holder Particles,then they will try to avoid observation.


123 posted on 09/22/2011 5:54:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Holderons?


124 posted on 09/22/2011 6:13:37 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: folkquest

Light is not really ‘pulled’ by gravite- it always travels in a straight line.

Space itself is warped by mass so the light travels within a warped space, which makes it look like it bends


125 posted on 09/22/2011 6:46:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: John W
If they somehow miscalculated the straight line distance between the CERN neutrino generation point and the detector by 18 meters, that would account for it.
The total distance is 730km.
It's possible they goofed, more likely than discovering FTL alas.

126 posted on 09/22/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Army Air Corps
multiply by 40.

How about 299,792.458 millimeters/microsecond?

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127 posted on 09/22/2011 9:24:59 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: ThomasThomas
Maybe the speed of light is getting faster.

LOL! It's getting faster over time.

128 posted on 09/22/2011 10:36:14 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: John W

Old news. Schumer closes the distance to a television camera at a speed far in excess of that of light. Too bad Einstein died before the Schumer Effect was discovered - I’m sure he’d have invented a whole new physics to incorporate the phenomenon.


129 posted on 09/22/2011 11:27:05 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
That looks interesting ... That info doesn't nail it down but its worth some reconsideration.

I will forward this to the person I work with, he is a top 10 brain in the world in computational electromagnetics and has a very deep understanding of theoretical physics; not particle physics but nevertheless, he is an IEEE Fellow ...

Am interested in his opinion ...

130 posted on 09/23/2011 5:36:50 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
...but the “common timing signal” itself has a travel time which is limited by the speed of light. Thus, for something traveling faster than the speed of light the ‘common timing signal’ would not be ‘common’.
131 posted on 09/23/2011 7:47:58 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: WayneS
Not true. For instance, they could use a common oscillator and timing strobe (e.g., 1PPS) fed through equal lengths of fiber-optic cable and calibrate it by sending pulses of light between the two stations in both directions, to detect any bias. This is somewhat analogous to how GPS works.
132 posted on 09/23/2011 8:38:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
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133 posted on 09/23/2011 4:12:15 PM PDT by mikrofon (Une Reprise)
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To: John W

Neutrios DON’T go faster than light! I bet that their their measurement error was that they did not use the distance from the starting point to the ending point THROUGH the earth! They used the distance between theose two points over the SURFACE of the earth, like is posted in atlases, and is given by GPS equipment, etc. You heard it here first! Another option is that ther neutrios went into a another dimension, and then out again, so they did not cover the actual distance in our space-time, similar to the matter teleportion in Star Trek. In that way, they had to travel a much shorter distance, and so still went under lightspeed.


134 posted on 09/24/2011 11:14:17 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: John W

Faster-than-Light Neutrino Puzzle Claimed Solved by Special Relativity

The relativistic motion of clocks on board GPS satellites exactly accounts for the superluminal effect, says physicist.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27260/


135 posted on 10/15/2011 9:17:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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