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Armed Services Chairman Says Defense Cuts Will Bring Back The Draft
TBI ^ | 9-21-2011 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 09/21/2011 6:16:45 AM PDT by blam

Armed Services Chairman Says Defense Cuts Will Bring Back The Draft

Robert Johnson
Sep. 21, 2011, 8:55 AM

Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee Buck McKeon says that if agreements on spending cuts aren't reached the U.S. may reinstate the draft.

“We ... need to understand what it’s going to mean to keep an all-volunteer force,” McKeon told Fox. “Do we want to reinstitute the draft? Some of the cuts we’re talking about would take over 200,000 out of end strength from our military (via The Washington Post).”

The 200,000 figure was derived from the $600 billion in mandated defense cuts that will start in January 2013 if the 12-member supercommittee does not reach a budget deal.

“Sometimes, we forget that a volunteer military is very expensive,” McKeon continued. “No one is proposing resurrecting a conscript system. However, the cuts required under a sequestration scenario would force us to break faith with the troops -- destroying our ability to retain forces in sufficient numbers to meet the threats we face.”

Basically, if the cuts go into effect we will do so little for troops that's been promised that current troops will not remain, and new members will not join.

As it stands now Congress is already looking to cut promised pension plans and retirement healthcare.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: drafts; economyrecession; military
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Congress must cut their own lavish benefits and outrageous pensions before cutting the military.
1 posted on 09/21/2011 6:16:47 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

oh bs.

We will never have a draft again

The all volunteer Army is far superior

Draft is a bad idea all around

Now, as the Brits would say, let’s put paid to the idea that “you have to pay for talent”. the people you want are those that have a calling for the work. If someone is simply selling himself to the highest bidder, you don’t want him.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 6:19:02 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: blam
Armed Services Chairman Says Defense Cuts Will Bring Back The Draft

Charley Rangel is ecstatic.

3 posted on 09/21/2011 6:20:22 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: blam

As it stands now Congress is already looking to cut promised pension plans and retirement healthcare.
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Yep and they’re looking at opening community colleges in Egypt.


4 posted on 09/21/2011 6:22:36 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: yldstrk

I’d volunteer to defend my county, but I’m not sure I’d allow myself to be drafted.

Not into a military that has sunk to such depraved levels as ours has.

The repeal of DADT has opened the gate to even more social changes than the military will be able to handle.


5 posted on 09/21/2011 6:24:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: yldstrk

“We will never have a draft again:”

Let’s see what happens now that normal people will be forced to cohabit with overt Rump Rangers and Lesbos.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a mass exodus.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 6:25:07 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: blam

“No one is proposing resurrecting a conscript system”.

Really, this is a one of the goals of a great many libs in
a position to make it happen, depending on the results of
the next election.


7 posted on 09/21/2011 6:27:40 AM PDT by wita
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To: Iron Munro
"I wouldn’t be surprised to see a mass exodus."

Very unlikely in this crappy economy and the high unemployment rate.

8 posted on 09/21/2011 6:29:39 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: blam

Yeah, lets reinstate the draft so our young people can be forced to defend foreigners in foreign countries who won’t defend themselves while our borders are being over run by illegals in the millions.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 6:29:39 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: yldstrk

The point is that if the incentives to make a career of the military are taken away the all volunteer force and the experienced career force will fade away. Many first volunteer out of a sense of service and patriotism but after four years of service, usually marriage and starting a family the assured care and welfare of your family becomes more important. Even during WWII when enlistments were high a draft was necessary, so with nothing on that scale on the mat, enlistees have to have some sense that the benefits for their families make up for the sacrifices and risks.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 6:32:14 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The military itself is not depraved. The majority of the Soldiers I serve with are honest, hardworking and proud to do so. It’s the “policy” that comes from above that is depraved. We still do our jobs of supporting and defending the Constitution. With the repeal of DADT, I’m sad to say it is hard to get the cat back in once it has been let out of the bag. Our military is filled with honorable men and women.

To coincide with the repeal of DADT I will be submitting my retirement papers soon. After 22+ years of service I no longer feel I can continue as I will not support the “army” policy under the Equal Opportunity program which was never really equal in the first place. It caters to minorities and ignores others.


11 posted on 09/21/2011 6:35:47 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: Graybeard58

BINGO!! The draft will allow the scumbag Left to again whine about the “unfairness” to the people (minorities) who are forced into military service.


12 posted on 09/21/2011 6:37:18 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Responsibility2nd
The repeal of DADT has opened the gate to even more social changes than the military will be able to handle.

There is already a movement afoot to have the military recognize gay marriage and to provide benefits to gay partnerships similar to those received by married personnel. For gays, the fight is just beginning with the end of DADT. Discrimination against gays will be made a hate crime. One can only imagine what kind of incidents will occur at the officer and enisted clubs with the overt display of homosexuality.

13 posted on 09/21/2011 6:38:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: blam

I thought that removal of DADT would force the need for a draft...(who would want to volunteer to fight in a gay military?)

Now the budget cut angle.


14 posted on 09/21/2011 6:39:04 AM PDT by kidd (S&P gives Obama an 'AA+'...Obama's only published grade)
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To: blam

I won’t serve in the “gay mans” army, even if drafted...


15 posted on 09/21/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by apillar
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To: RJS1950

In a terrible economy, there will be enlistments.

Like I said, the people you want aren’t doing it for the pay anyway


16 posted on 09/21/2011 6:44:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: blam

If true, this is good news, in that cutbacks will cause voluntary attrition, and we won’t need to fire any volunteers.

Our military is perfectly capable of tightening their belts. We can’t afford to fiscally destroy the nation they are defending.


17 posted on 09/21/2011 6:47:50 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: blam

The “ALL-VOLUNTEER” military has become THE place to go if you’re a faggot or dyke. Long-time veterans will be leaving in numbers now. They will draft because no self-respecting real MEN will want to join a bunch of faggots for shower-time.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 6:49:21 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: blam
This is the same bureaucratic BS they pull anywhere gov’t cuts are proposed. It's always “We'll have to close fire departments and lay off cops & teachers!” It's a scare tactic. He should be laughed at.
19 posted on 09/21/2011 6:50:04 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: blam
Reminder:
Constitution for the United States of America...Article. I. Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power ... To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States

and
U.S. Code TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 311.
Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

To wit: a "draft" is what the Founding Fathers had in mind.

In that light, may I suggest FReepers volunteer for their local (or higher) "Draft Board".

20 posted on 09/21/2011 6:53:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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