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Texas Tea Party activists to Perry: Hey, what about our borders?
Michelle Malkin ^ | 9/20/2011 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/20/2011 9:58:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark

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To: Lakeshark
With all due respect. If you think Romney is the answer and the candidate to challenge Obama, you're being naive. Hope that is not the case. Romney offers conservatives absolutely NOTHING! Willard's a liberal who has flip-flopped on one issue after another. He supported the Mccain-Kennedy comprehensive immigration reform bill, before he was against it. Romney is all about expediency over principle.

Perry has a solid conservative executive governing record in Texas that beats every major candidate the GOP has come up with for the last 23 years! I agree with you, Perry's immigration record sucks, but it doesn't suck as bad as you're portraying it. Perry is the Governor Texas. Its a border state. A tough nut to crack.

Ahhh... I've had enough for now. If Romney is the GOP there will be a third party challenge and that means, Obama will be reelected.

61 posted on 09/20/2011 11:32:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
Well, we'll agree to disagree here about this issue. I agree that Perry has some good things to commend as a conservative, but he certainly isn't our best candidate in twenty some years, I don't think he's even the best this time around.

We'll see, the more I read, the less I like.

62 posted on 09/20/2011 11:37:06 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Michelle Malkin lives here in the Springs. I’ve met her several times. Nice lady. Most of the time she is dead on correct. The question for Michelle is: if the choice is between Romney or Perry, who would she vote for? If she says Romney, she is dead wrong.


63 posted on 09/20/2011 11:37:06 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
I'm not a Romney fan at all, he likely is worse than Perry, for a host of reasons.

I don't think that's a recipe for enhancement with conservatives though, I'm not as bad as Romney.........

64 posted on 09/20/2011 11:44:09 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

Like I said I can’t comment on the ‘last name’ remark. I’ll try to find that segment of the debate. Here is something else he has said in the past:

End the notion of sanctuary cities
As we continue to strengthen our border, we must also consider the essential role that federal immigration policy, or the lack thereof, plays in the safety of our citizens and integrity of our state.
After revelations that a Dallas man had set up a cottage industry procuring Texas driver licenses for illegal aliens hailing from countries around the world, I am an even stronger supporter of the DPS initiative to issue specialized, vertical driver licenses, to identify those who have overstayed their visa.

I also support an end to the notion of sanctuary cities. Local government sends the wrong message when they pick and choose what laws they want their peace officers to enforce.

We should also track the citizenship status of those receiving state-funded services so we can get our hands around the financial impact of Washington’s failure to handle the immigration challenge. Some may oppose these efforts, but they are commonsense approaches to protecting our citizens’ lives and resources.

Source: 2009 State of the State Address Jan 27, 2009


65 posted on 09/20/2011 11:46:44 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Attention: Marxists, Liberals & RINOS: We The People are coming for YOU)
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To: Lakeshark
>>>>>>.. he certainly isn't our best candidate in twenty some years, I don't think he's even the best this time around.

Okay. Name one major candidate that has run for the nomination over the last 23 years that has a better "conservative executive governing record" then Rick Perry.

It ain't Willard. Unless you're a liberal or a moderate GOP'er, RomneyCare disqualiifes him from any considertion from the get-go. So who? GHWB? Bob Dole? Dubya? McCain? Maybe Huckabee? Think about it.

I say, none, zero, zippo! For the last 23 years the GOP has nominated moderates, at best. Romney would be the most liberal of the entire bunch going back to 1988.

66 posted on 09/20/2011 11:46:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
The question for Michelle is: if the choice is between Romney or Perry, who would she vote for? If she says Romney, she is dead wrong.

No, that's not the question. It's not even a question at this point, but a need for the voters to understand Perry's record on immigration. Whatever it is, or whatever any other candidate's might be, it will not be as bad as Obama.

But it is important for Republican candidates stands on this issue, and how a candidate would work with what should be a Republican majority in both houses of Congress. W tried every trick in the book to avoid complying with the Secure Fence Act. Would Perry do the same? Voters need to know.

(And I think the Secure Fence Act is probably still an active law, though not complied with.)

67 posted on 09/20/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Lakeshark
Your pessimistic remark aside, btw, I don't think I said that. We went through this campaign before in 2007 and Romney came out smelling like the liberal he is.

To even suggest that Romney would be better than Perry is a fallacy on every level. Lets not go there.

This is all about the good, the bad and the ugly... Perry, Romney, Obama. If this goes to a thrid party scenario, Obama will win.

68 posted on 09/20/2011 11:54:39 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Will88
This is the primary season and the GOP primaries are five months away. But lets get real. Any objective observer of politics right now understands the GOP field is being whittled down. Cain and Newt are fading fast and Bachmann is in full meltdown. Unless there is a last minute entry, which I don't see happening. This race is quickly boiling down to two choices. Either the liberal Romney or the conservative Perry. My monies on Perry. How about you?
69 posted on 09/20/2011 12:01:53 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Republican voters need to know what they are voting for on the major issues, and especially immigration as it is one candidates will double talk on until pinned down.

Bush and Rove did huge damage to the party trying to ram amnesty down the throats of a party and nation didn’t want it. They trashed the Republican majorities and paved the way for Pelosi and Obama.

As has been pointed out often, Rudy was still in the lead during September of 2007 and Fred was the great hope of many.


70 posted on 09/20/2011 12:10:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Outlaw Woman

Apparently you do not know much about the group La Raza. They advocate taking back the western part of America through any means!


71 posted on 09/20/2011 12:14:07 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: dusttoyou

He is speaking for this Texan and my family. We voted for Perry fir governor only because of the competition. He would be terrible for president. He is just a placeholder kind of guy. Like Ford was for President.


72 posted on 09/20/2011 12:18:58 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: Will88
I am all for vetting every candidate on every major issue and on the decisions and the votes they made. That includes immigration. However, this is not 2007. And Perry doesn't support blanket amnesty.

The field right now has Perry ascending. Sadly, so is Romney. While the others are descending. In 2007 Fred and Rudy peaked and then ran out steam and money. McCain became the establishment candidate by default. There is no Huckabee this time.

Again. If its Romney v Perry, who will you support? Just asking.

73 posted on 09/20/2011 12:25:00 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Lakeshark

All praise to these patriots!


74 posted on 09/20/2011 12:33:14 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Reagan Man

I don’t accept your premises about 2012. It’s early and we still don’t know what Palin might do, or not do. And there is still plenty of time for some candidates to implode and others to gain support.

But illegal immigration and amnesty are the biggest issues in this race. If nothing is done to secure the border and amnesty is given by law or by default, then a long term Democrat majority will have been ushered in. Then we’d have the old or a new version of Obamacare and no hope of repealing it, plus a lot more equally bad leftist legislation.


75 posted on 09/20/2011 12:49:56 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Its not that early and I still don't see Palin running.

>>>>>But illegal immigration and amnesty are the biggest issues in this race.

The vast majority of conservatives and most Americans, see the economy and policies for job creation as the major issues right now. Immigration has become a lesser issue because of the bad economy, but will be a prime issue for many GOP primary voters. The general election will NOT turn on the immigration issue.

76 posted on 09/20/2011 1:05:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Lakeshark

I think it’d be better to ask Obama ‘bout those borders...this is getting rather stupid...ask him when he is president...Texans have spent in just the last couple of years...400 million tax dollars on the borders and Perry has billed the feds for the money spent.


77 posted on 09/20/2011 1:08:02 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Reagan Man
The general election will NOT turn on the immigration issue.

That doesn't mean it's not the biggest issue in the election, and the one will that will have the longest term impact on the nation and the Republican party.

78 posted on 09/20/2011 2:04:02 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

To borrow a phrase.

Its the economy, stupid.

You remember that.


79 posted on 09/20/2011 2:14:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: shield; Reagan Man
...ask him when he is president

Actually, I don't want to ask him then, I want to know what his record has been so I can decide if I want to support him.

Correction, that was my stance a month ago, having seen his record I simply don't want him to be our candidate. He has dropped from second in my esteem to second to last (just ahead of Romney) having examined his record rather than just his sound bites.

80 posted on 09/20/2011 3:14:08 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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