Posted on 09/20/2011 4:22:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
Illegal immigration has become a heads-we-win / tails-you-lose proposition in this country. If the supporters of amnesty and open borders could get that codified into law, they would. Since they can't, they support comprehensive illegal immigration reform, with the idea being that the amnesty will occur, but they'll stall and slow-walk the security measures into oblivion. Since the people are onto that ploy and have demanded security first, the latest tactic is just to refuse to enforce the law. We can pass a bill that says we're putting a fence on our southern border, but we can't get the fence built. We can catch illegal aliens, but then ICE just releases them. Meanwhile, both parties talk about how important securing the border is, even as they deliberately take steps to make sure it never gets secured.
Why does this happen? Democrats believe, correctly, that illegal aliens would vote heavily Democratic if they become American citizens. So, the more illegal aliens that become American citizens, the more votes Democrats get. Many establishment Republicans foolishly believe that they need to be soft on illegal aliens to bring in more Hispanic voters. How bringing in millions of new votes for the other party -- so you can lose by a smaller margin with a block of voters who are already here -- makes sense as a winning electoral strategy is hard to figure. Additionally, both parties, but particularly the Republicans, have been influenced by sleazy businessmen who want to benefit from cheap illegal labor, while foisting all the costs on the rest of society.
This is why the problem doesn't get solved. The reality is that if the people in D.C. actually want to put an end to illegal immigration, they could do it within a year or two without resorting to the open borders and amnesty crowd's favorite imaginary bugaboo: rounding up millions of people, one by one, and deporting them.
How do we do it?
1) E-verify: This is the single most important thing we can do to combat illegal immigration because it gets to the root of why most illegals are coming here and staying here: jobs. If we mandate E-Verify -- which is really just a way to check the validity of Social Security numbers -- and the government puts the resources into the program, it will lock illegal aliens out of the overwhelming majority of jobs in America. Once we get to that point, there's no reason for most illegals to come here or for most of the illegals that are already here to stay here. So, if the flow of illegals into the country dramatically slows and the illegals that are already here begin to self-deport because they have no work, the biggest part of the problem is solved.
2) Finish the fence: The standard line from the open borders and amnesty crowd about the fence is, "If you build a thirty foot fence, somebody will just grab a forty foot ladder." However, we have built the fence out in a few places on our border and what we've found is that it actually works extremely well.
You've got to understand the purpose of the fence. It's not the end-all and be-all in border security; it's just a force multiplier. Illegals avoid areas where there's a fence and you don't need as much manpower there. That enables you to concentrate your manpower in other areas where it's impractical to build a fence (and there are some of those, such as where the border is a river and you'd be cutting off American livestock from their water supply).
We've already passed a law to build a fence on the border and it was supposed to be done in 2009. All we have to do is get the government to stop deliberately dragging its feet and finish the job.
3) More resources: The agencies that enforce our immigration laws may be the only thing in the entire federal government that's being deliberately underfunded. We don't have enough border patrol agents, we don't have enough agents enforcing the law internally, we don't have enough resources to detain the illegals we catch, we don't put the money that's needed in E-Verify, and for that matter, we don't even have enough resources to adequately handle legal immigration. Again, this is all by design. Heads, we win / Tails, you lose. You can pass any law you want, but if the government won't fund the people needed to enforce it and it won't put the resources needed to make sure that if we capture someone, we can hold onto him until he’s deported, then the law isn't going to be effective.
4) An effective visa program: One of the dirty legal secrets of illegal immigration is that as many as half of the illegals didn't sneak over the border. Instead, they came here legally with a visa and just didn't leave.
That's actually pretty easy for people to do since, believe it or not, the United States doesn't have an effective system for telling whether visa holders leave the country. If you come here on a visa and choose not to leave when it expires, chances are that the government has no idea you're still here. Technically, I-94 forms are supposed to be presented when visa holders leave the country, but there's minimal enforcement, people from 36 countries are exempt, and very little money and manpower are put into tracking down people who overstay their visas – like, for example, 4 of the 9/11 hijackers.
Unless we insist on having these forms filled out and start making a real attempt to track down more than a tiny fraction of the people who overstay their visas, we're not going to fix our illegal immigration problem.
5) Anyone caught doesn't ever come back legally: We've set up a system where there's no permanent penalty for being an illegal. If you try to cross the border and get caught, we send you back. If you do manage to make it across, you probably won't get caught. However, if you do, we may just let you go. Even if you do get deported, well, no big deal. You just try to creep back in and the cycle starts all over again. In theory, the penalties for "illegal re-entry" into the U.S. are harsh, but in practice they're often non-existent. Just ask Obama's Auntie Zeituni who was instructed to leave the country, didn't do it, got caught again and was allowed to stay here, in public housing, on the dole.
Here's an alternate idea. If you get caught in the United States illegally, we fingerprint you, take a DNA sample, and you are NEVER allowed to become a citizen or enter the United States legally again. That means if you have relatives here, you will NEVER be able to legally visit them. If we ever do create a guest worker program that you could potentially participate in, you'll be locked out. If you ever hope to be an American citizen, that will be off the table.
Some illegals won't care at all about this penalty, but for many illegals, this would be a tremendous disincentive to enter or stay in the United States illegally. You want to see illegals "self-deport?" This one change would drive millions of them out of the country.
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Start by repealing the law written by Bobby Kennedy in 1968, and return to good sense. Felonious? out! Become a public charge before seven years have elapsed? Out! then proceed from there, with a fence, and in some places, mines.
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Thanks bitt.
There’s still a catch 22.
Obama is trying to dismantle E-verify with regulations....
He DOESN’T allow an employer to use E-verify until AFTER they have hired someone. The employer can be sued and heavily fined for violating that rule.
Obama’s team will ‘investigate’ any illegal, and if they find no record of violent crimes, plus if they have work history (and with the new job that is also true), they grant them a work permit.
Voila, the illegal gets his E-verify record corrected, and amnesty to stay here.
Obama also setup the ‘self check’ portion of E-verify so that any illegal can test out how good their “ID” is ahead of trying to use it.
BS...
Make any business owner who is caught hiring illegals pay every dime of the illegals family medical cost accruded during employment, car insurance, and taxes for the illegals on top of legal fees for their own prosecution!
On top of that...take away their business license.
Problem solved!
Illegals are certainly a huge problem that we seriously need to deal with since we need the jobs and need to save the money they cost us.
The real border issue though is that we are rapidly importing the Cartel War into this country. The Mexican government has lost control of Mexico and various Cartels now control that country. We WILL be facing the same if we don’t wake up real quick.
Bring troops home from somewhere in the world and position them on the border where they are truly needed.
Especially Lamar Smith's bill, which is deeply flawed.
Quadrupling the border patrol probably wouldn’t help that much.
Preventing them from getting jobs or renting apartments may be enough to do the trick in and of itself.
Well they are going to stay pretty busy then,eh? I had not heard of this. Where did you pick this up?
Who is this Mr. Hawkins, and will he consider running for President?
By reading other freeper’s complains about E-verify on threads here, and from the E-verify Employer’s manual.
It must be effective though. The US CHamber of Commerce has fought it under Bush and in the AZ lawsuit that was victorious in US Chamber v. Whiting. They are backing Lamar Smith’s National E-Verify bill because it is all about the pre-emption clause destroying the right of states to enforce against employers the last turf on immigration that can be controlled outside of DC.
Read this letter from an enforcement immigration group on the gameplan in DC...then spread the word:
The Judiciary Committee voting to pass out HB 2885 is a blatant effort to further seize 10th Amendment rights and stiffle all objection to the employers of illegal aliens.
WE LOST THIS BATTLE because our representatives took contributions from the National Chamber of Commerce and a whole host of other groups who wish to pass thire lawful obligations for hiring employees to the rest of society.
WE LOST THE BATTLE BUT THE WAR IS STILL ON!!!!
Everyone needs to write their congresman and let them know this is a litmus test of their worthiness to serve in office. Congress can fix this bill and anyone who votes for it in its current form should be kicked out.
To clarify further, this bill is intended to void e-Verify and here is the plan:
1 Pass HR 2885 in its current wording.
2. Then, defund E-Verify, leaving the preemption clause in effect.
3. Pop a cork and celebrate that no one will make them pay the full freight for hiring illegals.
Do not forgive and do not forget. These folks do not care about the Constitution or the State of Texas. They are only loyal to their net worth, do not believe in hell and only believe in the present.
Take their power and influence away this next year by removing them from office.
Last and not least, never forget the treachery of Numbers USA is selling out on this bill.
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