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Lawsuits threaten to delay or derail California high-speed rail
Sacramento Bee ^ | 9/19/11 | Stephanie Rice

Posted on 09/19/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by SmithL

Even if state officials can scrape together the billions of dollars needed to fund California's ambitious high-speed rail plans, lawsuits from local cities and opposition groups still could delay, divert or derail the project altogether.

In the Bay Area, cities and nonprofits are suing over issues with the route and environmental studies. In Southern California, the city of Palmdale has gone to court over fears that rail officials will pull a planned Antelope Valley line through the city and reroute the tracks up Interstate 5 instead.

Perhaps the hardest-fought battle is yet to come in the Central Valley, where Kings County officials and residents say they'll do everything in their power to stop a 100-mile stretch of track from wiping out thousands of acres of prime farmland between Fresno and Bakersfield.

The biggest obstacle facing the beleaguered bullet train is probably its uncertain financial future. But lengthy court battles also could affect the project by delaying construction, increasing costs and altering the course the train takes through the state.

At the moment, ground zero for anti-high-speed rail sentiment is Kings County. It's a crucial region for the project because federal requirements attached to nearly $3.5 billion in stimulus cash dictate construction must begin in the Valley. If rail officials are unable to spend those funds by September 2017, the federal government could divert them elsewhere.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; environment; environmentalstudies; goldenstate; highspeedrail; porkbarrel; porkulus; stimulus

1 posted on 09/19/2011 2:08:04 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Hey. CA could just build it right on top of fault lines and apply for continual updating funds.


2 posted on 09/19/2011 2:09:24 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SmithL

IOW, Californians like high speed rail in theory — they just don’t want it to traverse any actual land.

If only there were some way to travel, at high speed, to distant points, that didn’t involve using any of the land in between. If only ... I guess that’s just an impossible dream.


3 posted on 09/19/2011 2:12:56 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Well, they could levitate....


4 posted on 09/19/2011 2:23:04 PM PDT by refermech
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

ROTFL!

Very clever! But you can’t just assume that Californians have heard of airplanes!


5 posted on 09/19/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

ROTFL!

Very clever! But you can’t just assume that Californians have heard of airplanes!


6 posted on 09/19/2011 2:24:10 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: SmithL

Oh, Dear Lord...please please PLEASE let there be some endangered garden slug living along the route of this thing, so that we could sue under the Endangered Species Act. It will be the most fun most of us ever have with our pants on.


7 posted on 09/19/2011 2:27:08 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SmithL
environmental studies

Never saw that one coming.

8 posted on 09/19/2011 2:27:46 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: SmithL

“Environmental studies”

BWAHAHAHAHAA!!


9 posted on 09/19/2011 2:28:34 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: SmithL
In the Bay Area, cities and nonprofits are suing over issues with the route and environmental studies.

One liberal dream (high speed rail) crippled by another liberal dream (the ability of environmentalist NGOs to effectively veto any infrastructure project). Too bad those environmental studies and lawsuits will also be used to keep California from building new roads, new power plants, new anything.
10 posted on 09/19/2011 2:32:47 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SmithL

I wonder how the left (er, “progressives”) like obstructionist use of the legal system now?


11 posted on 09/19/2011 2:38:34 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: SmithL

California has the highest ULPSM (underemployed lawyers per square mile) in the country.

Might as well rename this the “Welfare for Lawyers Project.”

Because no trains will be built with these funds.


12 posted on 09/19/2011 2:42:39 PM PDT by kidd (S&P gives Obama an 'AA+'...Obama's only published grade)
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To: SmithL

Cal. state song: “A Boy Named Sue!”


13 posted on 09/19/2011 2:47:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

I like this state song better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeXQBHLIPcw


14 posted on 09/19/2011 2:58:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SmithL

I live in the SF Bay Area between SF & San Jose. All the liberals voted for HSR. In CA, everyone always looks at the benefits, and they rarely (ever?) look hard at the costs - thus they have no experience with cost/benefit analysis.

BOONDOGGLE!

Long story short, when the “geniuses” in Palo Alto discovered that HSR would need 60-100 feet of right of way + additional area for stations, there would be noise, etc. They started to freak.

BOONDOGGLE!

“Why can’t they build it underground?” Uh, there are arroyos with a depth of 30ft. The track (and stations) would need to be 100ft undergound. I recall hearing about $100M per mile.

BOONDOGGLE!

I’ve seen a plan to run the HSR from San Diego to Sacramento (500 miles). Trip time - with stops - would be 3+ hours. Price of HSR ticket - they won’t say. Southwest Airlines - $93.

BOONDOGGLE!


15 posted on 09/19/2011 3:06:32 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: SmithL

Here’s one time I hope the environmentalists win.


16 posted on 09/19/2011 3:06:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Truly Weird.


17 posted on 09/19/2011 3:19:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; All

LOL!!!!!!


18 posted on 09/25/2011 9:33:36 AM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: Darteaus94025; All

Plus a plane would be faster than rail.. Also for a rail to go 500 miles it has to go in a straight line. Non stop..


19 posted on 09/25/2011 9:41:08 AM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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