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Snobbery 101: Back to Those Old College Grades (Maureen Dowd wants Perry's grades, but not Obama's)
National Review ^ | 09/19/2011 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/19/2011 9:08:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Maureen Dowd, channelling a new liberal narrative, argues that at least Romney is not an anti-intellectual dunce like Rick Perry, and to prove her point, she returns to Perry’s college transcripts. To the coastal elite, college grades are always proof of intelligence and legitimacy:

“Studying to be a veterinarian, he stumbled on chemistry and made a D one semester and an F in another. “Four semesters of organic chemistry made a pilot out of me,” said Perry, who went on to join the Air Force.

“His other D’s,” Richard Oppel wrote in The Times, “included courses in the principles of economics, Shakespeare, ‘Feeds & Feeding,’ veterinary anatomy and what appears to be a course called ‘Meats.’ ”

He even got a C in gym.

Perry conceded that he “struggled” with college, and told the 13,000 young people in Lynchburg that in high school, he had graduated “in the top 10 of my graduating class — of 13.”

It’s enough to make you long for W.’s Gentleman’s C’s. At least he was a mediocre student at Yale. Even Newt Gingrich’s pseudo-intellectualism is a relief at this point.”

When Dowd trashes Perry and Bush (why not quote the hardly impressive Kerry record?), she is arguing that long ago college records and scores are a good barometer of presidential success (that is dubious if one were to compare a Lincoln or Truman to Wilson or Carter), and, by inference, that the current president is also apparent proof. But does she have inside information about the Obama undergraduate record at Occidental and Columbia? If not, why not, given the supposed importance of undergraduate grades to liberal observers? I suppose we are to conclude that supposedly poor students like a Perry or Bush released their grades or had them leaked, but brilliant undergraduates earning top slots at Harvard Law have no need to release obviously straight-A transcripts and no worry that anyone would care?

Dowd then warns, ”Our education system is going to hell. Average SAT scores are falling, and America is slipping down the list of nations for college completion. And Rick Perry stands up with a smirk to talk to students about how you can get C’s, D’s and F’s and still run for president.” One need not approve of Perry’s C grade populism to wonder whether the problem is not a C student Perry as presidential candidate, but a current president that for some reason does not want to remind us that he was, of course, the sort of straight-A student that op-ed writers pine for.

Finally, some of Perry’s education reforms would probably do more to raise SAT scores and improve undergraduate education than the current race/class/gender industry that has turned a once classical curriculum into therapeutics, and tried to apply an illiberal equality of result standard of college performance rather than the old ideal of an equality of opportunity. In regard to Dowd’s sneer quote of  ”What appears to be a course called ‘Meats’,” it might, in fact, offer more real knowledge (about animal science, nutrition, and physiology) than, say, any of hundreds of classes in our universities like  ”Queer Mobilities” at Yale or “Desire and Repression: Economic Anthropology and American Pop Culture” at Princeton or “Of Mean Streets and Jungle Fevers: Race, Gender, and Ethnicity in Martin Scorsese and Spike Lee” at Harvard?  


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: collegegrades; maureendowd; rickperry; snobbery101
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To: SeekAndFind

It was those ivy-educated wunderkind of Kennedy’s Best and Brightest that stumbled us into the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Vietnam War. No thanks, I believe I’ve had enough of that sort of quality government.


21 posted on 09/19/2011 9:29:15 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: SeekAndFind
The fact that Obama apparently graduated from an Ivy league school has forever sullied their reputation.
22 posted on 09/19/2011 9:30:13 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: subterfuge
This thread is in violation of regulation 3.101 regarding photographs.

Sorry for the violation, I'll try to make up for it by posting ther hottest pic of Maureen that I can find...this is the best I have...


23 posted on 09/19/2011 9:30:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

I, for one, can’t wait to see Obama’s newly minted grade reports, full of A+++ grades.


24 posted on 09/19/2011 9:33:34 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Obama’s transcript ever does turn up you know he got all “A”’s. The faculty in these places would have been afraid to NOT give him an “A”.


25 posted on 09/19/2011 9:34:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortuantely, they know that enough “voters” will hear this if they keep trumpeting his grades, and agree that Perry is “too dumb” to be President.

Similar to the continual reminding that Obama was president of Harvard Law Review . . .even though it was clear that he was an “affirmative action” “historical” pick and was the only one never to publish anything.

“Oh, he’s SO intelligent” I was told.


26 posted on 09/19/2011 9:34:44 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: pallis
"and instead went the liberal arts route."

I would guess something along the line of Womens Studies

27 posted on 09/19/2011 9:35:33 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: samtheman
"Let’s see Obama’s records."

That's the answer. I've been saying ever since the Phony Phaker came on the scene that obama never even completed High School.

Any disagreement can be easily remedied simply by providing the appropriate verification from the accredited institutions 0 supposedly attended.

FINI!

28 posted on 09/19/2011 9:44:02 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind

Organic Chemistry is one of the toughest courses in college to separate the doctors from the rest of the students.

Like we always said, those who can’t major in Education, those who can’t major in Education take Journalism.

Pray for America


29 posted on 09/19/2011 9:48:42 AM PDT by bray (Palin is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: All
Perry accomplished e-v-e-r-y one of the three goals he set for himself in college.

PERRY'S COLLEGE GOALS

No. 1...Perry wanted to graduate.

No. 2...Perry wanted to be Yell Leader (cheerleader).

No. 3...Perry wanted to be in the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets---the Ross Volunteers.


30 posted on 09/19/2011 9:50:03 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perry should respond that he would be willing to show his college grades if Bambi would be willing to prove his eligibility.


31 posted on 09/19/2011 9:52:21 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: All
My, my, Ricky's come a long, long way. It was only yesterday, farm boy Rick sold Bibles door-to-door to get money to buy a car. Perry's hopes to become a veterinarian were dashed when he flunked animal science in college.

Then Ricky got into $$$Texa$ politic$-----and hi$ money worrie$ vani$hed. Now he travels to campaign stops in a sleek corporate jet, and has hundreds of millions of dollars at his disposal.

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So how many political/personal slush funds does Senor Ricky have? This is what we know to date----could be many many more.

<><> “Texans for Rick Perry” committee is a $102 million slush fund he uses at will. Some PAC mega-donors paid in $100,000 each in order to influence Perry's official actions. Gov Perry paid for posh family trips to the Bahamas, Amsterdam, Madrid out of campaign contributions from his “Texans for Rick Perry” committee.

<><> Perry's "Make Us Great Again PAC" raised millions to flood Iowa, and other early voting states, with ads promoting their boy.

<><> At the time he was saying he WAS NOT running for president last year, Ricky's Super-Pac raised $55 million for a presidential race---in $2500 max per person/ $5000 max per corporate PAC contributions. Perry organizers would not say what the Perry presidential groups has raised to date.

<><> Perry bragged at the Tea Party debate that he raised $33 million for reelection that year and that he was "offended" at the inference that he could be "bought" with Gardisil mfg Merck's $5000 campaign donation.

<><> The $295 million Texas Enterprise Fund doles out millions of tax dollars to Perry supporters who then kick-backed to his campaign coffers. TESF also gave $20 million to Countrywide Mtge---the crooks at the heart of the US financial meltdown---- Ricky said the $20 million was to (cough) "create jobs."

<><> Perry raised funds for the Republican Governors' Association, and, in turn, Perry's 2006 campaign received two $500,000 checks from the RGA that he did not disclose as election law requires.

<><> His wife Anita Perry's $60,000-a-year salary at the Austin "nonprofit" "Texas Association Against Sexual Assault" comes indirectly from Gov. Perry's political donors, state contractors and companies that do business with the state or have issues before the Legislature. Of 37 major donors during Anita Perry's tenure as fundraiser, ONLY three have NO ties to the governor or state business. Anita Perry is paid from the "nonprofit" money pool that includes political contributions. TAAS also receives grants from state agencies AND the governor's office. Donating to the TAASA seems to be another way Perry dreamed up for those with an interest in state government to influence Perry. State grants to the "non-profit" could be easily laundered especially w/ Mrs P at the helm.

<><> Perry also has a pot of "inaugural committee" monies (bet that comes in handy).

<><> And do on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

32 posted on 09/19/2011 9:55:32 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ann Coulter has been asking for years to see Punch’s SAT scores. And he’s the one Dowd bows to.


33 posted on 09/19/2011 10:07:45 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Liz

Liz, just wondering who you are supporting? You sure seem hostile. Just thought I’d ask.


34 posted on 09/19/2011 10:09:56 AM PDT by NativeTxn
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To: refermech

There’s a saying among lawyers that the A students stay in the law school and teach; forget what the B students do, and the C students are the ones who flourish and make money in the actual practicing law. One lawyer I know brags about finishing dead last in his class at UVA law school, and makes $ hand over fist.


35 posted on 09/19/2011 10:12:20 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: 353FMG

The problem is that Perry’s transcripts are already out there for the MSM to analyze and mock. Barry’s will NEVER be seen.


36 posted on 09/19/2011 10:14:28 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: bray

Organic Chemistry? Don’t kid yourself. Many, even premed students don’t take Organic Chemistry and still get into med school. My major was in microbiology and minor in chemistry. Most of the premed students who did take it did no better and sometime did worse than the rest of the class but regardless they were accepted into med school. Most took the minimum they could get by with and still be accepted; going for GPA rather than meaty courses that would give them a good preparation but be more difficult to get an A. Several of those who were accepted in 1976 (the last time I paid attention) were majors in music, philosophy and even journalism. Most took some type of prep course before taking the MCATs to know how to take the test. Some were admitted largely on the basis of family connections (father, mother, grandparent etc were MDs). I seriously doubt that much has changed. Being accepted into med school does not imply that the person took strenuous courses during their undergraduate career and not having those courses did not often hinder them in graduating from med school.

That rant aside, Dowd is a POS moron democrat propagandist.


37 posted on 09/19/2011 10:15:05 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have never been one of those who believes that rules were made to be broken, and therefore...


38 posted on 09/19/2011 10:17:55 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: bray

Organic chemistry is essentially memorization. Memorize fifteen things you can do with cyclopentene, and you’ve got it licked. You want a tough chemistry course? Try P-Chem.


39 posted on 09/19/2011 10:20:35 AM PDT by Hoodat (God bless the Commonwealth)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dowd holds a degree in English, which last time I checked does not require the completion of any chemistry courses. And now for something completely different.


40 posted on 09/19/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by Hoodat (God bless the Commonwealth)
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