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No apologies: Bachmann defends HPV remarks
CBS "News" ^ | 15 Sep 2011 | Sarah Huisenga

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about comments she made earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.

"During the debate, I didn't make any statements that would indicate that I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist or that I'm making any conclusions about the drug one way or another," the GOP presidential hopeful told reporters here who questioned her about the story she told suggesting that the vaccine had caused mental retardation. Asked whether she would apologize for comments that outraged medical experts say will discourage parents from getting their children immunized, Bachmann said: "Oh, I'm not going to answer that."

During the Republican debate Bachmann attacked her rival Rick Perry for mandating vaccinations against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV) for Texas school girls - a decision that the Texas legislature later overruled.

"To have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong," she said during the debate.

After the debate, Bachmann took her critique a step further, describing in several television interviews how a tearful mother had approached her after the debate saying that her daughter "suffered mental retardation" as a result of the vaccine.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiscience; antivax; bachmann; bachmann4romney; bachmannisaliar; captaingardasil; gardasil; hpv; perry; perrycare; rinorick; scaremonger
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To: TomGuy
Try this link to 894,000 Google results for hpv+vaccine+mental+retardation.

Try this link to 1,220,000 Google results for michelle+bachmann+heroin+addict.

Your research methodology is flawed.

221 posted on 09/16/2011 9:56:17 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: muawiyah

That’s your right, but you can find whatever you want to find on commercial sites.

thanks for your reply.


222 posted on 09/16/2011 9:56:17 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: McGruff
Because we’re afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore, to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children.

50% of high school grads are sexually active, some unwillingly. HPV is certainly communicable among that population.

In 2005, Texas had 1,100 new cases of cervical cancer per year and one-third lead to death according to the legislature. We have vaccinations to protect those children.

For all Bachmann's beating the "mandate" drum and sounding like a Democrat by claiming "choice" was "taken away from little girls," the vaccine was optional if parents didn't want it.

223 posted on 09/16/2011 9:56:36 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: All

Bachmann is getting marginalized from her own words.

The dog doesn’t hunt.


224 posted on 09/16/2011 9:58:38 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasles.)
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To: traderrob6; driftdiver

I’m still waiting for DD to show me where I said yesterday that the woman who told Bachmann that Gardasil make her kid retarded didn’t exist.


225 posted on 09/16/2011 9:59:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: newzjunkey

See, I lucked out.

My daughter doesn’t HAVE a vagina, I don’t have to worry about any of this nonsense.

You guys should have looked into having kids without genitals. Worrying about HPV isn’t something I have to worry about.


226 posted on 09/16/2011 9:59:51 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: thackney
How many people die each year in the US due to flu?

It varies, depending on the strain and the year...1918-1920 was a bad spread, with between 50,000,000 and 100,000,000 credited deaths.

According to Michael Smith, North American Correspondent, MedPage Today , Over 31 consecutive flu seasons, on average there were about 23,600 deaths a year linked to the flu -- varying from a low of 3,349 deaths in 1986-1987 to a high of 48,614 in 2003-2004

227 posted on 09/16/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Is your daughter’s name Barbie?


228 posted on 09/16/2011 10:01:30 AM PDT by LimberJim
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To: frogjerk
HPV cannot.

Some strains can.

...many infectious agents, including viruses, bacteria, and parasites, can be transmitted through blood transfusion. Well-recognized viruses include hepatitis A virus (HAV), hepatitis B virus (HBV), hepatitis C virus (HCV), hepatitis D virus (HDV), hepatitis G virus/GB-C virus (HGV/GBV-C), human immunodeficiency virus types 1 and 2 (HIV-1/2), human T-cell lymphotropic virus types I and II (HTLV-I/II), cytomegalovirus (CMV), Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), TT virus (TTV), human herpesvirus type 6 (HHV-6), SEN virus (SEN-V), and human parvovirus (HPV-B19).

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/hcai-iamss/tti-it/risks-eng.php

229 posted on 09/16/2011 10:02:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cboldt
I don't think many are accusing Perry of bribery

Maybe you missed Michelle Bachmann's comments during the debate along with the many folks on this thread who support her bad craziness.

Don't you think that anyone making such a charge should be able to back up their charge with facts? I mean, unless you think the only thing that matters is the seriousness of the charge.

230 posted on 09/16/2011 10:02:27 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Really? Perhaps you coulda asked


231 posted on 09/16/2011 10:02:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ponygirl

“I have a question... since I don’t have children, I don’t know the answer to this... Don’t they require that your children have a whole assortment of vaccinations anyway?”

Answer: Yes (require, meaning for practical purposes, yes)

Not that I agree with that, but how is this vaccine any different from the whole cocktail of vaccines your four-year-old is required to have before starting public school?

It is for a sexually transmitted disease and is required for girls only.


232 posted on 09/16/2011 10:03:08 AM PDT by ngat
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To: mazz44
Oh, please...you're trying to equate the nonsense of hustlers like Blaylock and Mercola with Edison and Franklin?

Good grief. I see jumping the shark isn't just for Michelle Bachmann.

233 posted on 09/16/2011 10:04:57 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: LimberJim

What’s the point of giving her a stripper’s name? She doesn’t have a vagina.

In all seriousness: Your kids have genitals. Your kids are going to use their genitals. You aren’t going to like it. Your parents didn’t like it, their parents didn’t like it. That’s just how it goes.

An HPV vaccine, far as I’m concerned, is a way for parents to protect their kids from the stupid decisions their kids are going to make.


234 posted on 09/16/2011 10:05:20 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: frogjerk
See also:

Could Human Papillomaviruses Be Spread through Blood?
Could Human Papillomaviruses Be Spread through Blood?

Our data suggest that PBMCs {peripheral blood mononuclear cells} may be HPV carriers and might spread the virus through blood.

235 posted on 09/16/2011 10:06:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
No, Merck told Perry and you and everybody else, this stuff's not for everybody ~ and gave some broad guidance on what they meant by sensitivity.

It's in the study.

I seriously doubt Rick or his cronies read the study before they had the office wordsmith pound out an executive order.

236 posted on 09/16/2011 10:06:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Sad day for America when the entire focus of the debate centers around Gardasil..Perry said he was wrong..lets move on to the real problems facing our nations and checking out Bachmanns voting record on ethanol concerns me...Another of Bachmann’s assets — a family farm owned by her late father-in-law, Paul Bachmann — received nearly $260,000 in federal money between 1995 and 2008, largely from corn and dairy subsidies, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit research organization that scrutinizes such subsidies. Paul Bachmann died in May 2009, but the congresswoman retains a partnership in the farm.

Bachmann said in December that the subsidies went to her in-laws and she never received “one penny” from the farm, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. However, in financial disclosure forms, she reported receiving between $32,503 and $105,000 in income from the farm, at minimum, between 2006 and 2009.


237 posted on 09/16/2011 10:07:52 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: D-fendr

I found Merck’s report on a commercial site. There’s no guarantee that a government website will contain the report as provided by Merck.


238 posted on 09/16/2011 10:08:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: driftdiver
Really? Perhaps you coulda asked

I did.

239 posted on 09/16/2011 10:10:30 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: D-fendr

You are welcome!

I will leave you with this, “What if someone has tremendous clinical experience and historical knowledge on specific subject. He uses this to help his followers improve. He also has tools that are recommended to help achieve the desired goal. During this time, he realizes that these tools are becoming obsolete. He chooses to reinvest his hard earned capital to create a better product to help his supporters achieve better results. What is this called?”

I call it the AMERICAN WAY!


240 posted on 09/16/2011 10:10:42 AM PDT by mazz44
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