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NOM RELEASES "FLASH" SURVEY IN NY-9 - WEPRIN VOTE FOR GAY MARRIAGE COST HIM SEAT IN CONGRESS
NOM Blog ^ | September 14, 2011 | National Organization for Marriage

Posted on 09/14/2011 10:09:27 PM PDT by Antoninus

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To: tlb

I’d LIKE this to be true, but Weiner was very pro-gay marriage. I highly doubt he wouldn’t have been re-elected easily were it not for his sexcapades.


21 posted on 09/15/2011 12:21:05 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: DManA

“So a self-serving survey by the National Organization for Marriage lets Obama and Schumer off the hook. What a nice gift for the press corps.”

It is rare that a single issue will generate a major upset - the donkey in this case got caught up in a “perfect storm” of problems: 1) the Obama fail on the economy (and policy in general); 2) the administration’s (and by extension, the Democrat Party’s) hostility to the Jewish state; and 3) the homosexual marriage fiasco. You might even throw in some residual disgust at the Weiner scandal.

I have no hard evidence, but I suspect the results would’ve been different if only one of these issues was in play - but with all three / four, we end up with a Turner victory.


22 posted on 09/15/2011 2:07:43 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Yehuda

“Basically mostly kosher Dems, with the appearance of hard right on Israel but center left on everything else.”

It’s not that are necessarily *for* gays but they just don’t care if someone votes for it, if they are good on other issues. So they will support someone like Giuliani for president with no problems.


23 posted on 09/15/2011 4:08:58 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: boop

“I’d LIKE this to be true, but Weiner was very pro-gay marriage. I highly doubt he wouldn’t have been re-elected easily were it not for his sexcapades.”

Republicans didn’t even bother running anyone against him for many years. And those that did were ‘Mickey Mouse’ candidates that weren’t serious.


24 posted on 09/15/2011 4:14:52 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Antoninus

There was a very strong grassroots effort in the Jewish community but NOM gave the cause a badly needed professional organization to reach out to everybody.

I know this community. This issue was white hot.


25 posted on 09/15/2011 4:24:11 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Antoninus

“Weprin won among non-Orthodox Jews 69% - 29%; among Other/None/DK 76%-24%. “

Young Israel member Weprin gets the atheist vote. FAIL


26 posted on 09/15/2011 4:25:53 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Antoninus

Small sample, yes BUT notice there has been NO movement away from Democrats among secular Jews. There is NO reason for Democrats to panic over losing Jewish voters because they are NOT. Jews still have not learned their lesson.


27 posted on 09/15/2011 4:46:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Antoninus
The people who want a "truce" on social issues are almost always social liberals

...and their definition of a "truce" is when only ONE side gives up........

28 posted on 09/15/2011 4:50:21 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Antoninus

I’m absolutely sure his “gay ‘marriage’” vote highly played into it. This horrendous vote ticked off a LOT of New Yorkers. NOM has declared war on Legislators who did. Good for them!!!


29 posted on 09/15/2011 5:03:37 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Antoninus

Attention GOP...

Lesson from Massachusetts from last year:

It is NOT a winning strategy to drive away your base by attempting to win over people that will NEVER vote for you anyway......

April 8, 2009
Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
http://www.massresistance.com/docs/gen/09b/nassour/index.html

April 21, 2010
Mass GOP convention nominates most extreme pro-gay Governor & Lt. Governor candidates in history
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10b/gop_convention/index.html

Aug 4, 2010
Charlie Baker & Richard Tisei: a pro-family nightmare
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/baker_tisei/index.html

Nov 1, 2010
Republican Lt. Gov. candidate Richard Tisei promises gay newspaper he’ll push homosexual agenda on several fronts
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/baker_tisei/tisei_promises_gay_agenda.html

Nov 4, 2010
Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/general/results_statewide.html

Nov 5, 2010
Mass. Republican Party’s RINO strategy a big part of election losses in top state races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/gop_strategy/index.html


30 posted on 09/15/2011 5:04:24 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Antoninus

In one of the most liberal districts in New York?

Somehow I think it’s more complex than that.


31 posted on 09/15/2011 5:08:39 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Sun
I’m happy to know that more NYers have better morals than I originally thought.

I really think a wrench of some kind was thrown into their election fraud machine this time, for whatever reason.

32 posted on 09/15/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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On a thread yesterday I saw a photo of Weprin "celebrating" at a Perv Pride Parade. He spat in the face of every person in his district with a moral compass. I say - HA HA and may this be indicative of future elections, all over the US!

33 posted on 09/15/2011 9:12:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ReformationFan
Truth. To be a social liberal is to be a fiscal liberal in the long run. After all, the taxpayers end up being the ones forced to pay for the consequences and results of social liberalism in society.

Bingo. This point needs to be hammered again and again until the "liberal on social issues" crowd gets it.
34 posted on 09/15/2011 9:40:48 AM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: boop
I’d LIKE this to be true, but Weiner was very pro-gay marriage. I highly doubt he wouldn’t have been re-elected easily were it not for his sexcapades.

Since Weiner's last election, NYers have been forced to focus on this issue. As we've seen in other referenda on gay "marriage", the more people think about it, the less they like it and the more willing they are to vote against it.
35 posted on 09/15/2011 9:43:43 AM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: little jeremiah
This election has just showed us conservatives not the half conservatives that the homosexual agenda SHOULD BE MENTIONED and it should not let any of us or candidates shut up about it. You mention to the voters that so and so candidate Dem is for homosexuals to marry and Govt can pay for those who are wanting to have their boobs chopped off then we will always win. Every state who has voted has said they want normal marriage. When this agenda has been brought up the winner is always the man/woman who stands for normal marriage. IT IS HIGH TIME TO MENTION THIS and I see the likes of CNN did not want to give the likes of Rick S much time as they know it gives him more of a spotlight and might bump his numbers up. One elderly lady She was talking and saying how her customers hate obama etc and then said in my ear very silently I don't think those homosexuals should marry either. I stopped her and told her she did not have to whisper , she has every right to shout it out loud if she likes and she will find that most agree with her especially down here. What a shame the likes of Megyn Kelly on FOX to the dopes on MSNBC, to the Boston globe to Hollywood tell us we have to stay silent and if we don't we will be called a name. well screw them
36 posted on 09/15/2011 10:07:40 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he is socially liberal, another phony conservative,1man +1 woman=marriage)
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To: icanhasbailout

sample size too small to be significant””

Really, so tell us what size of sample is required?


37 posted on 09/15/2011 10:27:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Antoninus

NOM should stifle themselves. NY-09 happened because of Obama, not gay marriage!


38 posted on 09/15/2011 10:29:14 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: manc

You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT my friend!!! People have been so terrified of the fascist techniques of the leftists that they’ve lost their courage and sense!

(note my tagline...!!!)


39 posted on 09/15/2011 10:35:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Generally you need a sample size of at least 400 (larger for larger overall populations) to have reasonable confidence that you haven’t run across an unrepresentative sample population.


40 posted on 09/15/2011 11:08:12 AM PDT by icanhasbailout
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