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I used to think that Obama and his underlings were pure evil; masterful manipulators of a nation of clueless sheep. But lately, I'm trending toward the opinion that these people are unbearably stupid.
1 posted on 09/14/2011 2:15:07 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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These people aren’t stupid; they’re lazy and slothful. They are perfectly willing to downsize ‘their’ economy if it doesn’t require that they actually work.. Deaf Ears here....


2 posted on 09/14/2011 2:18:58 PM PDT by Gaffer
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Ditto! It’s time SNL get in on some of this action - these dimwitted Dems are impossible to resist making fun of!


3 posted on 09/14/2011 2:19:33 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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They are not stupid. They are well fed. Pigs get fat. Fat hogs go to the slaughterhouse. It’s the way of the world, and the poor don’t even get the squeal from the hog.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 2:20:26 PM PDT by healy61
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Does Obama think so little of the GOP that he would actually expect them to jump on this Scroogesque bandwagon?

This is a move that’s out of touch with everybody, Republicans and Democrats alike.


5 posted on 09/14/2011 2:22:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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It goes to show what a pig obama really is.


6 posted on 09/14/2011 2:23:09 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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I don’t believe it! This has to be a joke.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 2:36:12 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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“It just defies logic as to why we would want to put up a disincentive for people to give to charities, especially when so many people are in a desperate state in our economy,” Cantor told CNSNews.com

This is one of the reasons I have my doubts about Mr. Cantor. Either he really doesn't understand what motivates the Obama administration, or he does not have the cojones to call them out.

This one ain't rocket surgery folks. In their supreme arrogance, Obama and his minions genuinely believe that they are more capable of determining where the need is and how much money to give each and every individual agency than the rest of us. They know that a tax on charitable giving will decrease charitable giving. Thus the agencies and the people they help will become even more dependent on the feds.

And as an extra added bonus, they think they will decrease the number of churches when their funds dry up. Yeah, right.

11 posted on 09/14/2011 2:37:38 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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Hey. Might as well demagogue the demagoguers. LOL!


12 posted on 09/14/2011 2:38:06 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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What day did he tax?
14 posted on 09/14/2011 2:43:40 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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Why does Obama hate poor people?


15 posted on 09/14/2011 2:47:23 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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This is beautiful! Eric Cantor's a genius.

The libs always whine the we "frame the issues" better than they do. Well, it's baloney. This time, though, Cantor's really gone and done it.

The Soup Kitchen Tax. Just brilliant.

16 posted on 09/14/2011 2:47:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Keynesians take the stand that the best way to sober up is more booze.)
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He does not want YOU to give to charity, he wants to take your money so HE can feed the homeless so they will vote for him.

17 posted on 09/14/2011 2:50:02 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Obozo wants to tax charitable donations to organizations dedicated to helping those in greatest need of help? The only possible outcome would be fewer and fewer donations to said organizations. I must muse as to just what goes on inside that empty head of his? He can’t seriously believe this is a good idea!


18 posted on 09/14/2011 2:51:12 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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Has anybody seen a copy of the “Jobs Bill” - I’d like to know what it says.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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obama uses "taxes" and "regulations" like Chicago thugs use "protection rackets" and "terrorism"...to control their "subject".

oddfather
20 posted on 09/14/2011 3:03:26 PM PDT by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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I used to think that Obama and his underlings were pure evil; masterful manipulators of a nation of clueless sheep. But lately, I'm trending toward the opinion that these people are unbearably stupid.

No, they're evil. It's all part of their plan to completely eliminate private charities, and have all "aid" go through the government. That way they can control who gets the aid, who eats, who goes hungry. It's all a part of their plan for total control over every aspect of peoples' lives. They are working hard to destroy the economic engine of America, in order to get as many people as possible dependent on the government. Then by eliminating private charities, they can give people ultimatums to get the to do what the government wants...

This, combined with the elimination of the "charitable contribution deduction" will get the US more in line with European socialist governments, and help bring about that "fundamental change" that Obama was talking about before the election.

Mark

22 posted on 09/14/2011 3:28:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Taxing charitable contributions is perfectly in line with leftist dogma. How do you force people to rely on the state when they rely on churches and etc? Defunding the charities shifts the burdens of society on to the government.


26 posted on 09/14/2011 3:42:08 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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Much as I despise the Obama administration, this is one proposal that deserves at least a close look and should not be dismissed out of hand as Eric Cantor has done.

The idea under consideration here is not a "tax on donations," as Cantor's message implies. It is simply a reduction (or elimination) of the tax deduction for charitable contributions. This may sound like a bad idea on its face, but the reality is that so many "charities" these days are little more than legalized rackets -- with well-paid executives and board members -- that actually spend very little money on the "charitable work" they're supposed to be doing.

28 posted on 09/14/2011 3:47:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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Many of the larger denominations, such ad Obama’s former church, are far left. Always talking about social justice, environmentalism, etc. and in a round about way blaming Republicans.

I suspect they will be silent on this issue, even though it would hurt their own food banks and soup kitchens and the people they claim to be helping.


33 posted on 09/14/2011 6:45:22 PM PDT by matt04
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/09/13/the-new-us-poverty-numbers-everyone-just-everyone-gets-this-wrong/

The New US Poverty Numbers: Everyone, Just Everyone, Gets This Wrong

by Tim Worstall, Business & Technology Contributor

The new US poverty numbers are out from the Census. The poverty rate is over 15% and isn’t this just terrible? It’s higher than it was decades ago and that’s just even worse, isn’t it?

Sadly, everyone, and I do mean near everyone other than myself, gets these numbers entirely wrong. From the left we’ve Angry Bear, from the right Dan Mitchell at Cato. Both have, sadly (sadly, for I quite like both of them), entirely misunderstood the little problem we have at the heart of the US poverty numbers.

The most important result of this little problem being that you simply cannot compare them over time.

Some grubby details: the US poverty line is calculated as being three times the food bill of a family in the early 1960s, upgraded over time for inflation. Doesn’t matter whether that’s a good definition or not, that’s just what it is.

When we calculate who is in poverty, who is below the poverty line, we include in the income said person or family gets their market income (of course) and also any cash that they get given directly by the government to alleviate their poverty. This seems sensible enough really, if you’ve got more cash you’re less poor than if you don’t have more cash.

However, we do not include in that household’s income all of the other things we do to alleviate poverty. We don’t include free medical care, or maybe help with the rent of an apartment or house. We don’t include any help that comes through the tax system nor do we include any vouchers: like Food Stamps for example . . . [see link above for continuation of article]

[Turns out, when these paid-in-kind benefits, and the EITC benefit, are included in the poverty calculations, quite a few more people are calculated to be above the poverty line. Like all statistics, it’s important to vet the internals.]


35 posted on 09/14/2011 11:12:21 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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