BACHMANN: Well, of course, I don't know the thoughts and the intents of the governor's heart. I have no idea what they are, nor would I speculate."<<<….. Source
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Gardasil and the GOP ……….. "In the extensive clinical studies (on more than 20,000 girls and women) that were performed prior to the FDA’s licensing of the vaccine, the vaccine was 100 percent effective, a virtually unprecedented result. How safe is the vaccine? No serious side effects were detected; the most common side effect is soreness, redness and swelling in the arm at the site of the injection.
……....In summary, Gardasil has one of the most favorable risk-benefit ratios of any pharmaceutical.
Having spent 15 years at the FDA and having seen regulation — the good, the bad and the ugly — up close, I am as opposed to anyone (except perhaps Ron Paul) to non-essential government intrusion into our lives. But some interventions are good. Among those I would include vaccination against childhood diseases and compulsory use of seat belts and motorcycle helmets.
I am discouraged by politicians who not only don’t know much about science, technology, or medicine (which is perhaps understandable) but also don’t know what they don’t know (which is unacceptable).
Here’s my advice to the presidential hopefuls: If you’re not sure of the facts, keep quiet.” Henry I. Miller, M.D., is Robert Wesson Fellow in Scientific Philosophy & Public Policy Hoover Institution.]
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The American Academy of Pediatrics also issued a pointed rebuttal to Bachmann's comments, without mentioning her name:
The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35 million doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record.
The American Academy of Pediatrics, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the American Academy of Family Physicians all recommend that girls receive HPV vaccine around age 11 or 12. That’s because this is the age at which the vaccine produces the best immune response in the body, and because it’s important to protect girls well before the onset of sexual activity. In the U.S., about 6 million people, including teens, become infected with HPV each year, and 4,000 women die from cervical cancer. This is a life-saving vaccine that can protect girls from cervical cancer. Source
Opposing HPV Vaccine "Unethical" - M.D. Anderson Cancer Center President "............ Dr. Ronald DePinho, the new president of MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, says the vaccine is not just sound but "one of the great scientific advances in the history of medicine."......
Dumb premise for a movie. Maybe eight people read anybody's stupid blogs.
And furthermore...
Down with Vaccinations!
POLIO FOR EVERYONE!
Why does anyone need Gardasil if they are not sexually active?
And when they do become sexually active if they don’t have multiple partners why do they need it?
So in short, if you don’t have the risk factors (behavior) then why do you need it?
Now they're trying to make it illegal to NOT take their witches brew.
Some govt intrusion is good? It's OK to point guns, take prisoners, demand ransom, as long as it's good for you?
TEA PARTY is about limited government NOT under the guise of salvation accepting executive ordered mandates = taxes.
How much have we the taxpayer been charged to produce and distribute this drug? I mean from day one of research unto this date... Most especially since there are other options to protect oneself from becoming infected. That option does NOT cost all of US one thin dime.
This thread is a crock, imho.
We are to think less of Representative Bachmann because of a role, scripted by a Hollywood leftist, in a MOVIE?
Give. Me. A. Break.
Hollywood is the lunacy.
The issue here for me is not whether or not it’s OK for government to mandate inoculations. It’s whether or not women who refuse to take the inoculation represent a threat to their fellow citizens. In other words, is HPV like smallpox? If a child isn’t inoculated, is the risk of exposure high enough and the results deadly enough to require such an brutal intrusion on personal liberty? If not, then Governor Perry’s actions were unjustified if not an abuse of power. To me, the answer is clear.
Hello,
I see that you have another thread dedicated to this subject, and have to wonder if you have a personal stake in the argument. I do not mean financially, but perhaps have had your life impacted by this.
If so, I can understand the desire to protect others from enduring something that *may* be preventable, and have no desire on my part to be perceived as attacking you directly or dismissing the suffering of anyone who has had their life or family impacted by any form of cancer. But I wonder if our societal push for a cure for cancer does not lead us to taint our interpretations of experiments with more hope than reality.
However, here is the American College of Pediatricians position on the HPV vaccination:
“The American College of Pediatricians is opposed to any legislation that would require HPV vaccination for school attendance. Excluding children from school for refusal to be vaccinated against a disease spread only by sexual activity is a serious, precedent-setting action that trespasses on the right of parents to make medical decisions for their children as well as on the rights of the children to attend school. The administration of this vaccine is exclusively to prevent a disease that is sexually transmitted, and mandating it as early as 9 years of age places the medical provider in an ethical dilemma. Administering the vaccine requires explanation to both the parent and the child. Parents may have chosen not to introduce the subject of sexual activity to their nine year old due to the child’s physical and emotional immaturity. Most 9-12 year old children are not sexually active; many have not entered puberty. Forcing a parent to forsake his/her better judgment to prematurely discuss HPV with the child would be inappropriate and unnecessarily intrusive.”
source:
http://www.acpeds.org/Human-Papilloma-Virus-Vaccination.html
I note that the paper does start with a statement of its safety, which I do not find convincing, but its discussion of sexuality and doctors’ and parents’ roles in discussing it with young people is much better than I expected.
Sorry I don’t want any government person forcing me to get shots. In the Navy, I got the Yellow Fever shot. That night I got a temperature of 105.7. The year 1978 was my last flu shot. In 1977 and 1978 I got the flu at the shots. Government needs to mind their own business. Perry was wrong. Bachmann was right.
Soon it will be mandated that we buy a Chevy Volt. The object of this vaccination hullabulloo is to get Bachmann out of the picture.
Welcome to the slope my FRiend!....Be advised: You'll pick up speed as u approach the bottom....Fasten your seat belt and put on your helmet...When u bust thru the finish line (the Constitution) the abyss awaits you....
as mandates go...Id vote for air breaks 1st!
Right again. Mandatory innoculations have been around for decades. Measles, diptheria, whooping cough etc REQUIRED for enrollement in government schools. So was polio when I was young. (does that date me?) Let’s all just have a public cat fight over issues that don’t really matter.
I thought Gardasil only protected (when it does) against four strains of HPV, and that there were over 30. This is being sold as some sort of panacea and it isn’t.
bttt
BACHMANN: Well, of course, I don't know the thoughts and the intents of the governor's heart. I have no idea what they are, nor would I speculate.
But it didn't stop her for one minute in accusing a Fortune 100 company and a sitting Texas governor of felonies before a live national audience.
Has Bachmann said anything about the criminal activities of the current regime such as F&F or does she just recklessly and maliciously accuse Republicans of high crimes and misdemeanors?
She obviously rejects the whole idea of innocent until proven guilty especially when the accused is a Republican - sadly a sentiment that is growing here at FR
So you agree with Rick Perry that young girls 12-13 years old should forcibly be vaccinated against STDs without their parents consent? How liberal of you.
It’s BS. The whole question about whether it works or not is a smokescreen.
You are either free or you are not free, there is no middle ground.
If someone can tell you things you must do, are you free?
No middle ground.
It’s BS. The whole question about whether it works or not is a smokescreen.
You are either free or you are not free, there is no middle ground.
If someone can tell you things you must do, are you free?
No middle ground.
Bachmann had actually made her point to Perry, but then kept going, and ended up looking petty and ridiculous by suggesting he was “bought” by Merck, and, the insane suggestion that Gardasil can cause mental retardation.
We had the ole circular firing squad working at the debates. Democrats and Rinos are pleased to see all the conservatives sink in the polls while Obama and Romney rose in the aftermath. Thanks Michelle and Palin.
Both could have taken on the issue of blasting crony capitalism by focusing on Obama’s latest problem of corruption and advanced the conservatives running. But instead, the ole girls clawed their own eyes out.