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1 posted on 09/13/2011 8:54:45 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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American culture: an irreversible decline or a coming renaissance?

Both. As long as Obama is in office it will be a seemingly irreversable decline. The renaissance will begin immediately, albeit slowly, after Obama is gone.

2 posted on 09/13/2011 9:00:59 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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The title reminded me of the recent photos of Hiroshima.

It got, uh, better. 8->


3 posted on 09/13/2011 9:00:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Ask on 11/7/12


4 posted on 09/13/2011 9:03:49 AM PDT by SanFranDan
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American Renaissance? Only after Obama is out of office and Democrats are put in the back of the bus. The interesting part is that Democrats are beginning to realize this and socialists are running for the hills. They realize also that the American people are tired of their lies and are will to stand up for their beliefs.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 9:06:11 AM PDT by RC2
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Depends on whether we, via our elected representatives, can reign in the Leech in Chief


6 posted on 09/13/2011 9:06:34 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama: the Unholy Won.)
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I’ve not read these two books and have no idea what’s in them...but I’m just a little burned out on the doomsday stuff. Even tho some of them have helped wake us up and start getting us engaged with the political elite and remove the commies we let take over.

Both my children were wide awake even before I was, as I was mired down into professional studenthood for several years after they grew up. And my oldest grandson is already engaged and headed in the right direction as well as the ones coming up behind him.

We need to give thanks for the ones that woke us up, but now we need to concentrate on getting busy, instead of sucking up more doomsday stuff. Give us your assistance helping us right the wrong, instead of more writing. Action! Action!


7 posted on 09/13/2011 9:07:43 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
American culture: an irreversible decline or a coming renaissance?

Both. It's dying in the USA and being reborn in the far east.

8 posted on 09/13/2011 9:13:26 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Santelli is the real leader of the tea party.)
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Quite probably, the worst pathology in this country are the linked - single parent homes and divorce.

Until people begin to recognize that marriage is a life time commitment, we'll continue to struggle with criminality, ignorance, illiteracy, vulgarity, and unproductive people leeching off the productive.

9 posted on 09/13/2011 9:15:42 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Yes, we are at a fork in the road. On a November day in 2012, the American people will decide which direction to take. The seldom taken road to prosperity or the well worn, socialist path to oblivion.


10 posted on 09/13/2011 9:22:38 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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decline...demographically induced

not just us...western civ in general

unless views change markedly and very quick

in 20-30 years or so, this nation will be minority “white” and those minorities..with 2-3 sub group exceptions have always voted for who they thought would give them something or were voting against traditional views here.

Latinos 80% democrat...they will be at least 25% of America in short order..amnesty or not

blacks 12%...90% Democrat

others...again over 80% Democrat

only whites vote majority GOP in national elections as a group..and even then...not always but they have since 2000

I don’t see anything stopping a permanent tilt to what we today would call the left and by then whites will be out of money to pay for atonement

I realize political evolution is not straight line but just based on historical trends since the 1950s and given corresponding population trends it’s just not a very rosy future for our way of life as we know it

I see us having a distinct possibility of becoming like Brasil in many ways. Large urban crime areas with political corruption and a huge disjointed family and lower income segment of the population which contributes less and less taxes voting to force an ever oligarchic appearing mostly white minority to pay for the things to keep them from full scale revolt...not pretty


11 posted on 09/13/2011 9:23:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (, Dick Cheney ....get his book...he should have been President)
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“...renaissance”

What we need is a spiritual enlightenment, like a good, old fashioned, New Light Movement, evangelism on a grand scale, values, morals, principled thinking that will overcome the corruption of pop culture with Christian values of compassion, gentleness, forgiveness, honesty, charity, personal responsibility, decency, manners, respect of elders, children, spouses, neighbors, strangers, animals..., hard work, thriftiness, and so on. The biblical principle of not getting buried in debt would go a long ways towards curing some of our economic woes. The biblical principle of small government, as demonstrated at Babel would help tremendously. Parental responsibility over children, discipline, turning off the televisions, the pop music, the drugs, the juvenile subculture, will certainly help. It seems an impossibility, but that is God’s specialty. That isn’t to say that the mess we’ve created won’t have to collapse first.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 9:27:16 AM PDT by pallis
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The author has a homophone error in his first sentence. That’s pathetic.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 9:27:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I welcome our new reptilian overlords. They are so quiet!)
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Decline. How can a First World nation not decline when the majority of its immigrants are muslims and 3rd world citizens who have little to contribute and no intention to assimilate.

The saying goes, you are what you eat. In the case of the US it is, “You become what you allow to immigrate.”

Hell, we don’t even have an official language and we are getting further away from that decision each day that we fail to establish one.


14 posted on 09/13/2011 9:30:40 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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In the midst of decline I do see the beginnings of a renaissance but it is going to take a little while before it really kicks into full gear.


15 posted on 09/13/2011 9:31:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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I forgot to say thanks for the book recommendations. Thanks!


16 posted on 09/13/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by pallis
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Politics are a result of culture, not the other way around.


20 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:17 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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There won’t be an renaissance until Education is revamped. Currently Education in the hands our nation’s enemies.

Eliminate the Unions, and drastically pare down the Education “Administration” bureaucracy.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 10:27:10 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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"Even if our economic and national security challenges disappeared overnight, we'd still have to climb out of the cultural abyss into which we've tumbled."

The car has driven off the [moral/cultural] cliff and we are just waiting for the impact. It cannot be stopped. It's just a matter of time.

33 posted on 09/13/2011 12:17:43 PM PDT by mtg
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