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(this makes the Perrydactyls wild--no mention of Ron Paul driving Perry's numbers down)
Posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Can you hear it?
The sound of President Obama’s political advisors licking their chops in anticipation of running against Rick Perry and reminding the rest of us a thousand different ways that the Texas governor knows his Texas history, that is.
As The Washington Examiner’s Haley Peterson reports in today’s print edition, Perry told a Tea Party audience in 2009 that “Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave it if we decided to do that.”
Perry was simply pointing out what most Texans know from infancy, and are known to boast modestly about from time to time when talking to folks from foreign lands like New York and California.
But you would think the former Al Gore supporter from Austin had read Jonathan Swift’s modest proposal for ending the Irish potato famine and cried “Eureaka!” in admiring response.
Former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs – an Alabaman who undoubtedly knows Perry was just indulging a familiar Texas past time of boasting about the state’s uniqueness – offered this glimpse of what will surely be a standard Democratic attack theme.
“Rick Perry is the governor who two years ago who two years ago openly talked about whether Texas should leave the union,” Gibbs said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
Here’s something else Gibbs also must certainly have known long before he uttered those words on the Jeffrey Immelt’s propaganda network: In the same statement in which Perry reminded everybody of one of the unique conditions of Texas’ entry into the federal union, he also said “we’ve got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it.”
So Perry said the exact opposite of what Gibbs would like everybody in America to think he said. But, hey, what’s a little outright lie among friends (Gibbs and his liberal mainstream media buddies asking him questions)?
Here’s another story that is often heard when a Texan comes into friendly contact with one or more Yankees:
In the Spring of 1863, General Robert E. Lee was conducting a military review of his Army of Northern Virginia for the benefit of an English military observer, Col Arthur Fremantle.
When members of Hood’s Texas Brigade “marched” past the reviewing stand, Fremantle, who knew of the unit’s amazing effectiveness as shock troops, was puzzled by what he saw and exclaimed: “Why General Lee, these men hardly have shirts on their backs.”
To which Lee replied: “That’s okay, Colonel. The enemy never sees the backs of my Texans.”
Hearing such a story and being from the state after which the heroes of the tale were named, it’s simply too tempting not to remind visitors from up North that Texas is just about the most unique place in the whole universe.
Too bad some people just can’t tell the difference between pulling Yankee legs and plotting political strategy.
Translation: The idea that a state could secede of its own will - equivalent to all other states voting to expel another state from the Union - is inconceivable, in particular in America, where the issue isn’t as contentious as it is elsewhere.
I would, if I cared, but I don't, so I won't.
He could always say he didn’t like what obama is doing to the country and meant that he would support seccession to protect Texans from having their state’s rights stolen.
The quote is from an 1833 letter to Alexander Rives. At the time the Nullification Crisis with South Carolina was going on, with talk in the state that they may leave the Union altogether.
A bunch of dumb colonist once thought that rights came from God and not from other men. They were so dumb they thought this was self evident. Silly guys.
"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."
President Davis
Get your money back you were had.
I am sure King George III would agree with you.
The only thing wrong with the Tx. v White decision is that the Constitution is silent on the issue of secession and doesn’t back up the decision. Other than that it is a good decision.
LOL! That was my first thought, too. Then I thought, "sin?" Glad to see we were both wrong, but we really should get our minds out of the bathroom...
I was going on the assumption that Perry was talking about peaceful succession and not armed revolution.
“I doubt any such polls existed except maybe as a joke.”
For what it’s worth...
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/29/texas-poll-obama-47-perry-45/
You ought to read one of his books, either “On My Honor,” his book about the Boy Scouts, or “Fed Up!” the book about the overreaching of the federal government and what we can and should do about it.
Where in the Constitution is the requirement that other states have to approve the secession of another state? It isn't there. Republican congressmen tried several times to make such an approval a requirement in 1860 and 1861, but it was voted down.
Consider what several states said when ratifying the Constitution. Here, for example, is what New York's ratification document said [Link, my bold below]:
We, the delegates of the people of the state of New York, duly elected and met in Convention, having maturely considered the Constitution for the United States of America, agreed to on the 17th day of September, in the year 1787, by the Convention then assembled at Philadelphia, in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, (a copy whereof precedes these presents,) and having also seriously and deliberately considered the present situation of the United States, — Do declare and make known, —
... That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness ...
That the people have an equal, natural, and unalienable right freely and peaceably to exercise their religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that no religious sect or society ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others.
That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state. ...
... Under these impressions, and declaring that the rights aforesaid cannot be abridged or violated, and that the explanations aforesaid are consistent with the said Constitution, and in confidence that the amendments which shall have been proposed to the said Constitution will receive an early and mature consideration, — We, the said delegates, in the name and in the behalf of the people of the state of New York, do, by these presents, assent to and ratify the said Constitution.
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(this makes the Perrydactyls wild--no mention of Ron Paul driving Perry's numbers down)
I have no idea what your background is so please don’t take this as any sort of slam at you, but my statement still stands. Please point me to a single Constitutional expert in this country who is on record as saying that Texas has rights under the Constitution denied to the other states. Or any main-stream Constitutional scholar who says that any state can leave the Union at will.
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this makes the Perrydactyls wild
'Heck', what DOESN'T make them go wild?
'Perrydactyl'
© 2011, FReeper 'sickoflibs'
I wonder if they realize they're doing more harm to Perry than good?
With their childish, sophomoric insults and viscous name calling and repetitive ad hominem attacks of fellow FReepers, they're turning OFF open minded CONSERVATIVES(1) who *May* - and/or prolly *Would* - vote for Perry if he does happen to win enough primary elections and get the nomination.(Yes Virginia, there are elections. /s)
I swear to god they are WORSE than the Rudybots were. At least those ex FReepers would admit Rooty was not perfect. But not the Texas Perrydactyls, nope. At any time I expect a Thread Posted: Today, 1:00p.m. EDT. 'Gov. Perry To Walk On Water!' And they'd BELIEVE it!
Ergo, if anyone needs to 'give it a rest' as is their usual retort, me thinks they need to follow their own advice.
(1) Many Conservatives lurk FR without signing up. They should know that.
“Sorry” if the gentle Condor51 was offended.
'Gentle' I am not. Nor am I easily offended.
However, I try not to argue with ladies. It's just not the gentlemanly thing to do. I also open doors for them and give them my seat if they're standing.
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