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What The Heck Is The "Chilean Model"? (Which Came Up in the GOP Reagan Library Debate)
Business Insider ^ | 09/08/2011 | Linette Lopez

Posted on 09/08/2011 9:35:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last night at his party's debate, GOP Presidential nominee Herman Cain shared his views on social security. He said that he advocated the "Chilean model."

Which prompted most people to say, huh?

We have your explanation-- here's how they do social security in Chile according to Cato.org. Workers are given the choice as to whether they would like to stay in a pay-as-you-go plan (like we have in the U.S.) or a new system in which they can put their entire payroll tax into a retirement account. That way, they can benefit from compound interest.

93% of Chilean's elect to participate in the new system. It's run by 15 private companies.

Here's how the country's former Secretary of Labor, Jose Pinera explains what has happened:

We guaranteed benefits for the elderly -- we told those people who had already retired that they had nothing to fear from this reform. We also told people entering the labor force for the first time that they had to go to the new system.

Today, all workers in Chile are capitalists, because their money is invested in the stock market. And they also understand that if government tomorrow were to create the conditions for inflation, they would be damaged because some of the money is also invested in bonds -- around 60%. So the whole working population of Chile has a vested interest in sound economic policies and a pro-market, pro-private-enterprise environment.

Not only that, but the savings rate in Chile went up from 10% to 27% of GNP. There's no payroll tax, and with full employment and that great savings rate, the economy has blossomed.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chile; chileanmodel; hermancain; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 09/08/2011 9:35:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Another Chilean Model:

2 posted on 09/08/2011 9:36:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
there are all kinds. Here's an example:


3 posted on 09/08/2011 9:37:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Joking aside, here is the Chilean Social Security Model as Explained by former Chile Secretary of Labor and Social Security, and Secretary of Mining, Jose Pinera:

CLICK ON this link
4 posted on 09/08/2011 9:39:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

was it the chilian model or the chlayin model???


5 posted on 09/08/2011 9:39:29 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of my neighbors, a welder, moved to Chile to take a job there. Seems like there’s work available there. I wonder if they have a border problem?


6 posted on 09/08/2011 9:39:33 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team 4 me)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d sign up for that.


7 posted on 09/08/2011 9:40:14 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: SeekAndFind

yawn...


8 posted on 09/08/2011 9:41:32 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems similar to the Galveston (SS) model - but Galveston is an opt out, I believe.


9 posted on 09/08/2011 9:42:14 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Military coup to overthrow a Marxist President? Sounds like a plan...


10 posted on 09/08/2011 9:43:16 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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... Workers are given the choice as to whether they would like to stay in a pay-as-you-go plan (like we have in the U.S.) or a new system in which they can put their entire payroll tax into a retirement account

Isn't this the system GWB tried to implement?

11 posted on 09/08/2011 9:45:18 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: SeekAndFind

Read about Pinochet, Milton Friedman and the Chilean model Here.

12 posted on 09/08/2011 9:45:53 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Oh, so not guilty!


13 posted on 09/08/2011 9:47:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarahcuda in 2012. Nothing but Net!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IOVKtMiuas


14 posted on 09/08/2011 9:50:36 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: SeekAndFind
We have your explanation-- here's how they do social security in Chile according to Cato.org. Workers are given the choice as to whether they would like to stay in a pay-as-you-go plan (like we have in the U.S.) or a new system in which they can put their entire payroll tax into a retirement account. That way, they can benefit from compound interest.

That's precisely how Herman Cain described it last night. I'd not heard of it before and was wondering what it was. But he answered my question sufficiently for me.

15 posted on 09/08/2011 9:51:07 AM PDT by bcsco
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RE: Isn’t this the system GWB tried to implement?

Yes, and I believe GWB wanted to model it after the Federal Thrift Savings Plan ( for Federal workers ).

He mentioned this in his first SOTU speech in his second term. Unfortunately, by then, he already used up his political capital because of the Iraq war.

SS was never even in the radar at all in his second term.


16 posted on 09/08/2011 9:52:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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we told those people who had already retired that they had nothing to fear from this reform.

If we were to try that here, Democrats would be telling those people who had already retired "They're destroying your Social Security! They're gonna throw granny out in the street."

17 posted on 09/08/2011 9:52:46 AM PDT by NJRighty (Under President B. Hussein 0bama, the stars and stripes will be replaced by a hammer and sickle)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m starting to REALLY like these Chilean models...we need to import more of them here and adopt them...


18 posted on 09/08/2011 9:53:00 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m familiar with the Chilean model.

Applaud Cain for so many good ideas. I do hope he has a place in the new administration.


19 posted on 09/08/2011 10:00:49 AM PDT by Jedidah
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“I would tax these Chilean models ... and I think they would probably tax me.” [/old man in Monty Python skit]


20 posted on 09/08/2011 10:01:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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