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Union members could cost Obama Pennsylvania in 2012
The Daily Caller ^ | 09/08/2011 | John Rossomando

Posted on 09/08/2011 6:02:30 AM PDT by martosko

New polling shows reliably blue Pennsylvania, a state that hasn’t voted for a Republican for president since 1988, could be up for grabs in 2012. And in a wisdom-bending development, organized labor could help the state trend red.

A new poll from the Center for Opinion Research at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa. shows 52 percent of Pennsylvanians want someone other than Barack Obama elected president in 2012. Just 41 percent say he deserves another term.

But most telling in the Franklin & Marshall poll is remarkably high dissatisfaction with Obama in households where rank-and-file union members live.

Although 61 percent of all Democrats polled said they want to see Obama re-elected, 59 percent of union households told the pollsters they wanted to see someone else in the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: obama; pennsylvania; polls; uniongoons; unions; unionthugs
Paging James Hoffa, Jr. ...
1 posted on 09/08/2011 6:02:36 AM PDT by martosko
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To: martosko

these are trhe same people who voted for Murtha after he called them racist morons


2 posted on 09/08/2011 6:05:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: martosko

So, those union members wil vote for the evil tea party conservatives? I seriously doubt it. Come election time they will vote for their commie associate of the People’s Socialist Communist Homosexual Liberal Dimocrat Party.


3 posted on 09/08/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: martosko

From what I have seen, Obama is not popular ANYWHERE in Pennsylvania except with some of the Black Panther types in inner-city Philly. Even black support out here in the west seems lukewarm for him.


4 posted on 09/08/2011 6:15:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: martosko

As LBJ said: “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America”

Obama can say “If I’ve lost Pennsylvania, I’ve lost Middle America” and there’s no hope for him winning an election.

For someone who is a bitter clinger from Pennsylvania I can say don’t count your chickens before their hatched though. I would quibble with one thing in the article. It is true that Pa has a hard time voting for a Republican in the Presidential elections, but we are far from a “Reliably Blue State” as the article proffers. We have a Republican Governor, Lt Governor, Senate and House. So as a state, we are pretty red.


5 posted on 09/08/2011 6:18:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: martosko

Don’t worry. Philly’s 110% voter turnout will pull Obama over the finish line. I live in Lancaster and people seem to be upset about Obama. It really depends on who the other candidate is.


6 posted on 09/08/2011 6:19:30 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: All

There is no excitement for obama.
Yes, every black person, welfare queen, anti-Semite, every union thug, every illegal that turns out WILL vote for obama, but there’s only one problem: they aint’ gonna show.


7 posted on 09/08/2011 6:27:56 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” B. Hussein obama.

Yeah, yeah, yeah..I think the people of Pennsylvania like being stomped on by democrats. I never thought they would vote for obama after he made the comment above. I have ZERO confidence in their ability to make wise poltical decisions.


8 posted on 09/08/2011 6:47:21 AM PDT by Josa
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To: martosko
Although 61 percent of all Democrats polled said they want to see Obama re-elected, 59 percent of union households told the pollsters they wanted to see someone else in the White House.

IMO...this is fatal. When only 60% of you hard-core base wants you back...you can't win. That will show up as low turn-out....sitting at home.

60% support from your base means you lose 10% off the top.

9 posted on 09/08/2011 6:49:19 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: martosko

Pennsylvania, where the city of Philadelphia has had inner city precincts with 105% turnouts. Somehow I think the Hussein Fraud Machine is REALLY cranked up for Il Douche in 2012.


10 posted on 09/08/2011 6:53:03 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: martosko
Remember in 2010

Pennsylvania went ALL Republican:
Governor
US Senator
State House
State Senate

AND

Philadelphia is being left to rot on the vine. Prominent Democrat politicians from Philadelphia THAT USED TO run Harrisburg with an iron fist are gone or in jail. Philly is also losing population and they will be redistricted so they have even less power...

11 posted on 09/08/2011 7:09:28 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: martosko
Wasn't Obama's infamous "bitter clinger" remark in 2008 specifically about rural Pennsylvania voters?

James Carville described Pennsylvania as "Philadelphia and Pittburgh with Alabama in between."

12 posted on 09/08/2011 7:11:10 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: RetiredArmy
More than likely ,if they are that dissatisfied with Zero , they won't vote at all which is just as good. Dems are really in the dumps this year as were we in 2008 which means a lot of them will just stay home.IMHO
13 posted on 09/08/2011 7:42:33 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
but we are far from a “Reliably Blue State” as the article proffers. We have a Republican Governor, Lt Governor, Senate and House. So as a state, we are pretty red.

Then why does it not vote for a rep. president???

14 posted on 09/08/2011 7:44:58 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Pennsylvania, where the city of Philadelphia has had inner city precincts with 105% turnouts.

And the Republican response was . . .

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15 posted on 09/08/2011 7:46:03 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: ontap
"Then why does it not vote for a rep. president???"

Well, I can't state all the reasons but one reason is unions. There are still very powerful unions in this state. The teacher's union being one of them. Plus, there are many here who are not in a union, but Dad was a steel worker, coal miner, railroader etc... who was in a union and that has a big influence over them. Even the Dems in this state are very conservative socially. As Obama noted, we cling to our guns and religion. Gun rights are a big issue here. The NRA national convention has been held here twice in the last 7 years. I believe we have the second highest state NRA membership. The abortion issue is big and you can forget about any gay marriage amendment passing in this state anytime soon.
16 posted on 09/08/2011 8:03:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: RetiredArmy

Ahhh, no. Many of the Pa Unionites are the ones who put Republican Tom Corbett in office as our Governor; and elected a State Senate and House that is overwhelmingly R as well. They also overwhelemed the Philly Voter Phraud to elect Pat Toomey to the US Senate; and lil Bobby Casey will have sweat on his uni-brow next election as well. We bitter clingers hold a grudge!


17 posted on 09/08/2011 8:04:21 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: martosko

Much as I’d like to believe my Home State will flip to the right in 2012, I’ve been down this path before. PA is a classic “Lucy with the football” state for us. Trust me, nearly all of my relatives still live there and if any of them even know there is a choice NOT to vote democrat I’d be shocked.


18 posted on 09/08/2011 8:13:32 AM PDT by Sursam Abordine
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; ontap

The unions are tied to the dimocrats hook, line and sinker. Either they vote for Zero, or refuse to vote at all. In the end of the day, most will vote for Zero because he is the union ticket, I.E. Hoffa’s mob types. Yes, of course, there are conservative union members and they vote their way, but the majority of the mob votes for the mob.


19 posted on 09/08/2011 8:31:37 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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