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To applause, Perry defends Texas death penalty
Associated Press ^ | Sept. 7, 2011

Posted on 09/07/2011 7:19:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. (AP) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry is defending the death penalty in Texas and says he's never struggled with whether any of the inmates executed during his time as governor might have been innocent.

When Perry defended capital punishment, he drew strong applause from the scores of people in the audience at the Republican debate Wednesday night at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

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To: KittenClaws
My construction means that, even if there were no deterrent effect, the death penalty would still be appropriate.

. Granted, if there is a deterrent effect, so much the better.

A subtle difference. But a an important difference.

Libs are prone to argue that there is no provable deterrent effect. My response is: So what? Even if there is no deterrent effect, the death penalty is still perfectly appropriate.

61 posted on 09/07/2011 9:35:23 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: One Name

“Paint me a portrait of how this is supposed to work.”

A lot more like the Old Testament teachings and a lot less like the touchy feely crap coming out of the liberal definition of how to punish killers.


62 posted on 09/07/2011 9:35:57 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That was his shining moment.


63 posted on 09/07/2011 9:42:05 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: One Name

After watching Casey Anthony set free (most likely because the state reached too far in asking for death and, thus, the jury balked) I think there should be a higher level of proof than reasonable doubt for the death penalty.

We now have so many forensic tools (security/video cameras, computer/phone record searches et. al. as well as that silver bullet known as DNA) that we should keep “Life” as is, but raise ‘Death’ to Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt.

Keep it in the quiver, but only pull it when sure.

Certainly Caylee Anthony would have found a greater degree of justice.


64 posted on 09/07/2011 9:49:56 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Rembrandt

Come walk with me thru the penitentiary. I got your touchy-feely shit.


65 posted on 09/07/2011 9:50:47 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Would you have a problem executing Texas mass murder Major Nidal Hansan?

Most would not! A silver bullet would be too good. A lead bullet dipped in pig’s blood would be better....


66 posted on 09/07/2011 10:04:41 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: hapnHal

I’d prefer to see him everyday in a seg unit. Delivering his chow and escorting him to a shower every other day.

I’d get to chip away at him for a long time.

What’s your plan?


67 posted on 09/07/2011 10:14:07 PM PDT by One Name
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To: youngidiot

He’s probably worried about some of his radical pals in DC’s socialist end of things. Texas will try them and fry them too, if they kill innocent people in Texas. You never know, Brian. Sometimes justice catches up to ya and the fat lady sings. :)


68 posted on 09/07/2011 11:31:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: LongElegantLegs

But there are 7000 capital cases waiting ~ or should be.


69 posted on 09/08/2011 5:30:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: eddie willers
Most likely what? The state of Florida gave the jury many choices ~ they didn't balk.

It was California that restricted the jury's choices too far in the OJ case.

Failure to deal with the actual situation regarding public information like who got charged what with which and did the jury have choices indicates you're not really up on this case.

70 posted on 09/08/2011 5:33:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: One Name
There is nothing we can do to even approximate the judgement of God.
Get your rocks off..if you must.

We're not God; nor do we claim to be. We're Texans. Carla is in God's hands now. If you are going to say "vengeance is God's alone"; then we probably would be equally wrong to incarcerate someone as well. For are we not exacting vengeance (or to use your crude phrase: "getting our rocks off") if we try to apply a penalty?

I think you need to revisit "render unto Caesar..."

71 posted on 09/08/2011 7:23:28 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: muawiyah

My question is, how many innocent men are rotting in Texas prisons because the DNA was never tested.


72 posted on 09/08/2011 7:36:45 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
How many?

How about how many GUILTY guys are rotting in Texas jails and don't want their DNA tested because that's going to tie them to many other crimes?

It's almost impossible these days to rot in jail and not get your DNA tested for one reason or the other.

The trick is to KEEP IT FROM BEING ENTERED AS EVIDENCE in other cases!

73 posted on 09/08/2011 7:41:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: One Name

Haven’t been there; don’t have your experience. But what I think I would feel is this:

“Here is one for your victims, for all the innocents that might be harmed if you ever get loose, for all the convicts that have share the prison with your murderous self, for all the guards that have to risk their lives to guard both us, and you and for all the taxpayers that have had to support your worthless self.” *Click*

Her status as a sinner, and mine, doesn’t come into it. Its just a little preventative maintenance on society and the human race.

BTW, the Bible explicitly endorses the Death Penalty.


74 posted on 09/08/2011 7:49:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: muawiyah

We seem to agree that making sure DNA evidence gets tested is a good thing.


75 posted on 09/08/2011 8:32:05 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: muawiyah
But there are 7000 capital cases waiting ~ or should be.

Just because the DNA evidence has not been tested doesn't mean there's been no action on the case...In several instances, men were tried, convicted, and sent to prison long before it's existence was even revealed to the defense. Ricardo Rachell's case comes to mind. In Gilbert Amezquita's case, the judge denied the defense's request to allow DNA evidence to be presented at court. Both these men were exonerated and freed after serving many years in TDCJ.

76 posted on 09/08/2011 8:43:07 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

No problem with it at all. At the same time there are plenty of prisoners who don’t want their DNA tested. The ACLU will go to court to protect them from those tests.


77 posted on 09/08/2011 8:44:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LongElegantLegs

Anybody facing the death penalty probably ought to let the prosecution take a DNA test.


78 posted on 09/08/2011 8:45:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LongElegantLegs
Did you read ALL that article about the Supreme Court decision and DNA?

You get down far enough it says: "At the trial 16 years ago, Skinner's lawyer did not ask that this evidence be tested, apparently fearing that DNA evidence would only incriminate his client further. But since then, Skinner and a new team of lawyers have tried to get access to the material for DNA testing."]

What that means is that THIS IS NOT NEW MATERIAL. 16 years ago the defense could ask for DNA tests ~ but they didn't lest their client get even more incriminated.

I have to laugh at that one LMAOROF and ROFLMAO ~ WOW. Guy was afraid of being further incriminated in a multiple axe murder situation.

Now that's hard to do I'll tell you!

79 posted on 09/08/2011 8:54:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Can you provide a link?


80 posted on 09/08/2011 8:57:58 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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