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1 posted on 09/07/2011 2:04:58 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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Brookline, not surprising

Speaking of flags, remember how UMass professor Jenny Traschen called the flag a symbol of death and terrorism and oppression? She aired these views at an Amherst MA Town Meeting on...Monday Sept. 10, 2001.

Red Skelton and the meaning of the Pledge

2 posted on 09/07/2011 2:06:22 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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“Saying the Pledge of Allegiance has no educational value”

If you cut everything without educational value in public schools, opening to closing bell would span like 30 seconds.


6 posted on 09/07/2011 2:12:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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“Rosenthal, who has a daughter at Brookline High School, called the pledge a loyalty oath loaded with complex issues such as justice, liberty and religion, in the phrase ‘under God.’”

He says that likes it’s a bad thing. And maybe it is, but if it were, the pledge itself would be an ant hill compared to the Himalayas of public education as a whole, which even according to the best motivations and under the most easygoing direction represents a burdensome amount of indoctrination and state mind control.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 2:16:59 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Voluntary isn’t good enough.

Libtards demand that any opposing view be silenced.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 2:17:26 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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What I’m saying is, if we’re going to have government education, might as well include upfront and obvious forced loyaltiy and indoctrination. Plus, people like ceremony. Even the oppressed (in this case by the evil, irresistible phrase “under God”).


9 posted on 09/07/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by Tublecane
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loyaltiy = loyalty


10 posted on 09/07/2011 2:19:53 PM PDT by Tublecane
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If only Kalifornia and Romneychusetts would fall off into the ocean, the world would be a better place! My apologies to conservatives in both states....


11 posted on 09/07/2011 2:26:31 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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12 posted on 09/07/2011 2:28:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust.)
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This guy probably couldn’t even get himself to wave a flag when they got Osama.


13 posted on 09/07/2011 2:30:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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I wonder if his skin would “crawl” in a foxhole...idiot!


15 posted on 09/07/2011 2:54:33 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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The value the Pledge has is that you are using American Taxpayers money to operate your school.
If I lived there you would use the pledge or you would not get my tax dollar.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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Question ought be does attending public school in Brookline (or most anywhere else in America these days) provide any educational value.I mean once a child knows how to read-and mark his pay check with his mark—and cipher enough to know if his employer— or the Fed is stiffing him what else can a pubic school teach?— How to put condoms on a banana —or maybe where to get the girl you got pregnant an abortion?


18 posted on 09/07/2011 3:35:33 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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Brookline Pax and all those like them make MY skin crawl. All of them are everything that is wrong with this country!


19 posted on 09/07/2011 4:05:50 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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Just one more (among many) reason why elections no longer offer us any way out of this acclerating descent into a centuries-long era of tyranny.


21 posted on 09/07/2011 8:00:08 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Martin Rosenthal, co-chair of Brookline Pax, said that though the recitation of the pledge is voluntary, there is subtle and sometimes overt pressure on students, especially younger children, to participate, which he said makes his “skin crawl.”

“It just puts kids in an uncomfortable situation,” Rosenthal said. “How do you say that to a 6-year-old. …We just don’t think it belongs in the schools.”

Martin, ol' buddy, ol' pal, if saying the Pledge of Allegiance makes your "skin crawl" then, maybe, just maybe, you don't belong in the United States".

And, if you believe that reciting the Pledge puts your children in "an uncomfortable situation", I strongly suggest you leave the country. As soon as possible!

I hear Cuba is nice this time of year. And I understand the health care is "best in the world" and that your children will receive the best education available.

All you'll have to do is pledge allegiance to Fidel Castro and Karl Marx.

22 posted on 09/07/2011 8:10:33 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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Bet Rosenthal supports homosexual education for 6.


23 posted on 09/07/2011 8:10:54 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Bet Rosenthal supports homosexual education for 6 year olds.


24 posted on 09/07/2011 8:14:16 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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There is only one thing that will end these constant battles. Do away with government schools at all levels.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 10:42:55 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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