Posted on 09/07/2011 1:42:59 PM PDT by RonDog
AMANDA KNOX: THE NEW MUMIA!September 7, 2011
Despite liberals' desperate need for Europeans to like them, the American media have enraged the entire nation of Italy with their bald-faced lies about a heinous murder in Perugia committed by a fresh-faced American girl, Amanda Knox.
The facts aren't elusive: In December 2009, the Italian court released a 400-plus page report detailing the mountains of evidence that led the judges and jury to conclude that Knox, along with her Italian beau, Raffaele Sollecito, and a petty thief of her acquaintance, Rudy Guede, had murdered Knox's English roommate, Meredith Kercher, on the evening of Nov. 1, 2007.
Now liberals are howling that the DNA evidence was "contaminated," but they always say that. It wasn't. And the DNA was already thoroughly vetted at trial.
Nonetheless, let's consider only a tiny slice of the evidence available to the police in the first week after the murder -- long before any DNA tests came back.
Murders and murder convictions obviously occurred before 1986 -- the first time DNA was used in any criminal investigation -- so it is possible to establish guilt with no DNA at all.
Knox's first-of-several alibis for the night of the murder was that she was at her boyfriend (and co-defendant) Sollecito's house all night, sound asleep until 10 a.m. the next morning.
A few days later, when that was proved false by telephone records, eyewitnesses and Sollecito's admission that it was a lie, Knox claimed she was in the house during Meredith's murder ... and she knew who the murderer was!
She said it was her boss, Patrick Lumumba, the owner of a popular bar in town:
"He wanted her. ... Raffaele and I went into another room and then I heard screams. ... Patrick and Meredith were in Meredith's bedroom while I think I stayed in the kitchen. ... I can't remember how long they were together in the bedroom, but the only thing I can say is that at a certain point I remember hearing Meredith's screams and I covered my ears. ... I can't remember if Meredith was screaming and if I heard thuds but I could imagine what was going on."Read More »
Then you haven’t read enough. She is so guilty. The evidence against her is overwhelming.
No, the prosecution had a strong case against her even without the DNA evidence (which was also overwhelming).
Did you think Casey Anthony was innocent?
Inadmissible in court, but if the cops have two suspects and arrest them both for a major crime, and check on them in a couple hours - the guilty guy is sleeping like a baby and the innocent guy will be up for hours.
The guilty guy was anxious before he was arrested - now that he is arrested he knows at some level that he is where he belongs and he sleeps.
The innocent guy didn't know what was going on until he was arrested - now he is up for hours wondering what is going to happen to him.
Well, according to prosecution’s forensic experts, there were 3.
I have. This case peaked my curiousity. I read court transcipts and judge reports. The case against Amanda Knox definitely proved she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt (almost beyond all doubt).
Depends. Ask Charles Manson.
Now, if that isn't the MEME of a LIBERAL mindset, I don't know what is.
Following that LOGIC one could conclude that if you knew ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the case, you would be totally convinced she was NOT GUILTY.
Maybe (using a conservative mindset) you would conclude that with as little as you know about the case, you do not have enough info to even make a judgment. Don't you think?
Ann nails yet another one.
Which leaves the Christie, Sarah-slam and Bill Maher things all the more perplexing.
My current theory is that she's this trained CIA counterintelligence agent, see? Except that she's part of a breakaway cell that's planting memes to incite certain people to react against her at certain times, see? Except that she doesn't eat anything except a blade of grass every other month, so she's occasionally erratic.
Kind of like a thoroughbred Arabian horse. Wicked fast, nothing comes near them, but touchy and unpredictable, too.
That's my theory, and until another one comes along, I'm sticking to it.
I remember reading the early news reports and thought she was guilty as heck.
Innocent people don’t lie, change their story, and attempt to frame an innocent man.
The Neverending Nightmare of Amanda Knox
How a naive kid from Seattle was coerced into confessing to a brutal murder and wound up sentenced to 26 years in an Italian jail
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
yea, stupid. They havn’t met my 18 yr old daughter.
Oh, I’m still not getting it. The glass was on the clothes, not under them right? Cause under them would tell me the clothes were dumped after the glass was broken.
This is not strong evidence.
I make no assertions on Knox’s culpability.
I vote guilty.
Very good read. Once again it shows the stupidity of young persons who travel abroad and expect justice as fair and impartial as in American courts, where the prosecution has the burden of proof and the slightest misstep by them can result in the guilty going free.
Time and time again, a naive person out of country will get involved with those who would exploit her naivete for their own criminal purposes — e.g. deal in or smuggle drugs and you can land in jail for many years.
It’s hard to believe that someone with this level of intelligence can be so utterly devoid of street smarts. And that amount of naivete can not be understood by those who have lived in the real world and view it with healthy reality. Therefore it would appear that the almost childlike behavior exhibited after the crime was deliberately deceptive in an attempt to get her freedom.
It appears that in Italian culture, such behavior plus the Keystone Kops-like incompetence of the police plus the need to prove ones innocence all combined to put her in the current situation. Hopefully it will be sorted out in the appellate court; if the story is close to truthful she was railroaded.
I remember that too! The guilty guy falls asleep because he no longer fears the “unknown”, i.e. when he’s going to be arrested. An innocent suspect wonders what the hell is going to happen to him, so he’s on pins and needles.
That is also my impression.
More on this story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2775112/posts?page=12
No, Kansas Girl, this one isn’t even close. Basically the only people who’ve looked into it that still think she’s guilty are the ones who fell for the lies promoted by http://www.perugiamurderfile.org run by a self-described marxist-feminist Peltier supporter, and her buddy Peter Quennell a creepy ex-UN functionary who runs their ‘showboard’ http://www.truejustice.org
They like sending out their propaganda to media officals, Ann might have seen it and figured if the media was supporting her, she must be guilty. However the real reason is if you look into it you find everything she put in her column is either outright lies by the corrupt prosecutor and police or they twisted something totally innocent into something that sounds incriminating when it really isn’t.
The ‘conversation’ with Filomena at the door is one of the silliest damn things in the case. They’ve called the Caribinieri, (kind of a military police) they invited the other police in that showed up coincidentally beforehand because they were returning the phones Rudy Guede had thrown while he was fleeing, they tried to break down the door, they asked the police to do it, and then Filomena says something about the door never being locked, and Amanda, probably just trying to keep hope alive, corrects her as Meredith did sometimes lock her door (obviously) and the case is so weak they try to pretend that’s evidence Amanda didn’t want the body discovered!
The rest of it is like that too, though nothing can be quite as silly as the conversation about the door being ‘evidence’ of Amanda not wanting the body discovered after all they did to try to alert people to the crime and get into that room!
If you want the truth about the case try:
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/
—Probably the best overview of the entire case, with a messageboard *anyone* can join, don’t try that with either of the loony ones I linked above unless you’re willing to agree with just about everything they say.
http://viewfromwilmington.blogspot.com/
A professor of biochemistry at UNC-Wilmington who became interested in the case when he saw the similarities to the Duke LaCrosse case which he’d also blogged about
http://knoxarchives.blogspot.com/
Ray Turner, who put together a number of interesting articles about the maniac who’s responsible for this whole mess, and his actions against press in Italy and the even the United States to keep people from criticizing himself and the police.
http://gmancasefile.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-blinded-justice.html
A former FBI agent, violent crimes unit and anti-terrorism who looked into the case and started campaigning for their release
http://www.monsterofperugia.com/2011/07/media-lottery-draws-golden-ticket.html
—Dr. Mark Waterbury Phd A former Air Force engineer who soon realized how absurd the whole case was and the corruption of Perugian officials
—An Italian in Perugia who originally thought them guilty until the police lies became too obvious and the prosecutions theories too absurd.
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