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IBM Bets Big on Stacking Chips, With 3M’s Help
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 6, 2011 | Don Clark

Posted on 09/06/2011 4:12:37 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter

Edited on 09/07/2011 9:10:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The computer giant and 3M this week are announcing a collaboration to advance the practice of stacking multiple chips on top of each other, packing much greater computing and data-storage capability together into a small space. Electronics companies now routinely stack a few chips together

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3m; chips; computers; ibm
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I had to excerpt the heck out of this so you should probably read the original.

It does sound like there is a real shift in thinking is happening here.

1 posted on 09/06/2011 4:12:40 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: ShadowAce

Ping


2 posted on 09/06/2011 4:13:17 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

This has been on the agenda for over 10+ years. The real next revolution is the optical LSI chip.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 4:18:29 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Straight Vermonter

When I saw that 3M is involved, I immediately wondered if they’re taping them together.


4 posted on 09/06/2011 4:20:02 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross

That certainly makes them faster but I don’t see how that is going to allow a device to pack more into a given geometry.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 4:33:31 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Paul Ross

Even longer than that, some early packaging concepts way back in the 50s used stacked thick film modules. Then this guy Kilby came along with this nutty monolithic idea ;-)

It’s sure an intriguing concept, and maybe if they do make it work there’ll be a Nobel price in it. (The kind that actually mean something)


6 posted on 09/06/2011 4:34:11 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: wolfpat; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Swordmaker; martin_fierro

> When I saw that 3M is involved, I immediately wondered if they’re taping them together.

Still, this story is very important, and I’m glad someone did PostIt.


7 posted on 09/06/2011 4:37:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wolfpat

They’ve been watching too many episodes of the Red Green show.


8 posted on 09/06/2011 4:38:20 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Paul Ross

How far along is the quantum state chip? It has been several years since I first read of this.


9 posted on 09/06/2011 4:44:50 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Straight Vermonter

It’s probably because if you can stack them, the computers would be taller, but take up less floor space. When you’re talking about the space that supercomputers take up, even being able to add one row of computer chips on top of each other could halve the floor space the supercomputer takes up.


10 posted on 09/06/2011 4:50:33 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Straight Vermonter
and they are cooled... how???
11 posted on 09/06/2011 4:55:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

That’s certainly one of the problems.
Could they water cool it?


12 posted on 09/06/2011 5:00:15 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Straight Vermonter
Bah! I did this years ago with a 8088 SBC prototype.

I didn't have enough room on the wire-wrap board for two RAM chips, so I put one on top of the other and soldered all but the /CS pins together. The top chip's /CS pin was then bent outwards and the /RAMHIGH signal was wire-wrapped to the pin.

Early stacking. :)

13 posted on 09/06/2011 5:00:26 PM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Chode

It would not suprise me if they have to employ vertical cooling channels within the stacks to draw the thermal energy away at a rate sufficient to keep the stack from malfunctioning. Some form of non-conductive liquid/oil/gel circulating through the stack would almost seem a necessity. If its all sealed into a “brick” the surface area is most likely insufficient to support a purely air cooled approach.


14 posted on 09/06/2011 5:02:21 PM PDT by Lurkus Maximus
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To: Straight Vermonter
These ideas have been around for a long time, and IBM certainly isn't the only company doing it.

The real shift is that "Moores Law" has hit a brick wall.
15 posted on 09/06/2011 5:03:45 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: Straight Vermonter

“IBM is going all-in on this hand Mike!”
“Wow, Skip! You just don’t see this kind of play at every WPT tournament!”
“That’s one big stack!”
“You might call that fanstacktic, Skip.”
“We might call you sh_t-for-brains, Mike.”


16 posted on 09/06/2011 5:06:04 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: wolfpat

I just read about the first quantum integrated processing and memory circuit. Basically it should be ready when we recover from the Obama recession.


17 posted on 09/06/2011 5:20:26 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Jonty30
prolly wi Fluorinert coolant like the Cray's...
18 posted on 09/06/2011 5:33:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lurkus Maximus
fluorinert liquid cooling will add $$$ so i guess they'll be servers and ultra high end machines
19 posted on 09/06/2011 5:36:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Might as well make it a bee hive design with a internal cooler at it’s core.


20 posted on 09/06/2011 6:13:50 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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