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Tea Party chief (Jim DeMint) defends Perry 's record
Financial Times ^ | Sept. 4, 2011 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner

Posted on 09/04/2011 11:12:58 AM PDT by Clairity

Texas governor Rick Perry's previous support of Democrats was dismissed as irrelevant by aTea Party leader, in a sign that the rapidly rising Republican frontrunner for president is gaining allies despite questions about his record.

"We know people change. Reagan was a Democrat," said Mr DeMint on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour". "I want to give ... [all of the candidates] a little room to change. I know I've changed some positions I had 10 years ago, because the country's in a very different situation. So I'm going to listen and look and do my homework. And I'm not counting any of them out at this point."

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: demint; elections; openborders; perry; ricardoperon; rickperry; rinomanure; teaparty; texas
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To: icanhasbailout

But what were his positions three years ago when he was a Romney insider?


82 posted on 09/04/2011 2:27:29 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: CajunConservative
If Palin was unattractive and frumpy we would not be discussing her due to her thin resume. - cajunnotconservative enough

Maybe you are just another PDS troll! We discuss her because of her record!

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Sarah Louise Palin (i/ˈpeɪlɨn/; née Heath; born February 11, 1964) is an American politician, commentator and author. As the Republican Party nominee for Vice President in the 2008 presidential election, she was the first Alaskan on the national ticket of a major party and the first Republican woman nominated for the vice-presidency.

She was elected to Wasilla City Council in 1992 and became mayor of Wasilla in 1996. In 2003, after an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor, she was appointed Chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, responsible for overseeing the state's oil and gas fields for safety and efficiency.

The youngest person and first woman to be elected Governor of Alaska, Palin held the office from December 2006 until her resignation in July 2009. She has subsequently associated herself with the Tea Party movement, endorsing and campaigning for several candidates in the 2010 midterm elections.

Her book Going Rogue has sold more than one million copies, and is one of four recent political memoirs to sell more than one million copies. Since January 2010, she has also provided political commentary for Fox News, and hosted a television show, Sarah Palin's Alaska. Five million viewers tuned in for the premiere episode, a record for The Learning Channel. A documentary about Palin's career, The Undefeated, was released in July 2011. - Wikepedia

(Time Magazine Top 100)
Click to learn more about her...

Elect Sarah Palin for President 2012

Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016

83 posted on 09/04/2011 2:30:46 PM PDT by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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To: reasonisfaith

I don’t think DeMint was into Romney as anything but a slightly preferable alternative to McCain. Given that we were already plunging into economic depression at the time, which would you choose - the successful businessman, or the lifelong politician who admittedly knew nothing about economics?


84 posted on 09/04/2011 2:35:00 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: Magic Fingers; Liz
I got your crickets right here, Sparky:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,592942,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, now, I know that your past as governor of Alaska didn’t — was not the same time that Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona has gotten into office, but I assume that sort of governor to governor...
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s your thought on the heat that she’s taking over this statute?
PALIN: I’m proud of Jan Brewer for standing up for the constituents in her state, sending a message to Washington, sending a message to President Obama saying, Hey, you need to do your job, sir. And if you’re not going to do it, OK, then we are compelled to do the job for you until you get it right.
President Obama has been suspiciously silent on this issue, hasn’t he? We don’t even know where he stands on immigration reform or securing our borders. He doesn’t talk about it. He gets to punt on that one. And that’s unfortunate because this is a big issue. It’s all about national security. It’s about our sister border states that are inundated with violence and with crime because people illegally crossing the border, engaging in illegal activities for too long now. And some of these border states are saying, Now we’ve had enough. I admire Jan Brewer for taking a stand.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why do you think — I mean, for 20-some years, maybe even longer, even going back to President Reagan — everyone has always said, We’re going to secure the borders.
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Nobody has done anything. I mean, or almost nothing.
PALIN: Because they’ve made it political and they haven’t understood that unsecure borders isn’t fair to anybody. It’s not fair to American citizens who ware here legally, paying taxes, following the rules, doing all the things that an American citizen is expected to do. It’s not fair to them. But it’s not fair to the illegal aliens, either, here. They want to come pursue an American dream. Some of them do want to be here to work. But they’re forever going to have to hide because, you know, government’s going to crack down on them when (INAUDIBLE)
So they need to follow that path of legal citizenship, obviously. But these politicians, presidents in the past who have not secured the border, they’ve made it a political issue. They haven’t wanted to tick off a potential base of Hispanic voters, so they haven’t made the tough decisions. And that’s no way to solve the problem. That’s no way to solve any challenge in America, by ducking and hiding and creating division and making these partisan issues out of it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, we have still more with Governor Sarah Palin. Governor Palin is blunt about what she would do about illegal immigration. She’s going to tell you.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing with former governor Sarah Palin on illegal immigration.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Both parties have made promises. I mean, we pull up sound bites where, you know, both sides, you know, Democrat, Republicans, say, you know, Secure the border, secure the border. And then once in office, we certainly don’t see a whole lot of action. Had the election gone another way, or even if you were president, what would you do about immigration?
PALIN: The very first thing is literally secure the border!
VAN SUSTEREN: How?
PALIN: People mock the idea of a fence. What’s wrong with building a fence? Yes, let’s physically secure the border. Let’s ramp up border control. Let’s provide the tools for those who are putting their lives on the line in order to stop illegal immigration of these aliens. Those are a couple of things.
And then you don’t start talking about amnesty, either, kind of as this last-minute, Oh, anybody who’s here in the country right now, we’re going to provide you amnesty, and even though you’ve broken the law and we are a nation of laws, you’ve broken that, we’ll still give you — because then there’s going to be a huge influx of those wanting kind of at the last minute to come over the border because they know that they will forever then receive that amnesty.
So you don’t start talking about that, but the very first thing you do is physically, literally secure those borders. It baffles me and most Americans why for all these years presidents, administrations have spoken about it but never done it.

How about this?

Or this one

Here are the facts: Rick Perry has had 10 years to reduce illegal immigration in Texas and has only fostered a climate to attract more of them.

FACT: Arizona law not right for Texas

FACT: The number of illegals in Texas has increased.

FACT: Number of illegals getting in-state tuition is on the rise

And how about this?

VOTERS WANT TO KNOW: Is Texas Governor Perry responsible for the savage Zetas expanding their growing drug empire inside the US, from Big D--Dallas? ANSWER: It's a stupid question. Everybody in Texas knows Perry is definitely NOT responsible for what happens in his state, and on his watch. Besides, would any reasonable person want Rick Perry to do something about the Zetas and risk getting beheaded---with all that nice hair? Course not.

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PERRY DID NOT KNOW that the Zetas ‘gulf Cartel, is a former "special forces unit" of the Mexican Army. The Zetas signature savagery is beheadings for those who d-a-r-e try to stop them. The Zetas have been in operation for years and years, and, thanks to all the US dollars they pocketed in Texas (legal and illegal), they have recently been recruiting openly in Mexico.

PERRY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS In the border city of Reynosa a banner reads, “Former soldiers sought to join armed group; good pay, $500,” “The Zetas operations group wants you, soldier or ex-soldier.”

PERRY DID NOT KNOW that Mexican authorities said the border signs were probably an attempt to "demoralize the soldiers and police," rather than a serious recruiting effort.

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PERRY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS
A Zeta Narcorepublic?
IBD Editorials ^ | July 27, 2011 | Staff
FR Posted by Kaslin

Mexico's drug cartel, the savage Zetas, have drawn a bead on Guatemala's 2011 presidential election, and former US officials say the cartel is stockpiling arms to do the same to Mexico in its 2012 election. Is there a White House plan? Smuggling military-grade weapons from Fort Worth through El Paso and Columbus, New Mexico, the Mexican cartel known as Los Zetas may be doing so not just to fight other cartels but to disrupt Mexico's 2012 election, according to report quoting former officials in the El Paso Times that ran July 13.

Phil Jordan, a former director of El Paso's DEA Intelligence Center, and Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, a former CIA contract pilot, warned that Mexico's democracy could be in jeopardy as weapons sold through the US Direct Commercial Sales program may end up with Zeta front groups. Last year, $416.5 million in sales went to Mexico through this program. That corresponds to a similar warning from Mexico City on Wednesday. Guatemala's President Alvaro Colom said the Zetas pose a "serious threat" to Guatemala's democracy as it nears its Sept. 11 election.

Could two nations past our southern border go down to the Zetas and become narcostates? Obviously the cartels think so, based on the weapons they're trying to bring in — anti-aircraft missiles, grenade launchers, assault rifles, body armor and night vision goggles. (There has been no serious response from anywhere in the US). Read more at investors.com .......

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PERRY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS Using deceit and guile, Mexico, and other South and Central American countries, have infiltrated the US political system, from domestic to foreign policy, and even L/E. These govts are sending millions of Reconquista shock troops over the border.....they are "voting blocs" trained to use the American system of govt for their own nefarious purposes, primed to take over the US.

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PERRY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS
Mexican Cartels Manufacture and Deploy 'Narco Tanks' in Ever-Escalating Drug War

FR posted by Reaganite Republican

What to do when RPG's, AR-15s, and land-mines can't kill your rivals fast enough? When the mass-graves and gory piles of severed heads don't spook 'em like they used to? How about some narco tanks, vato...? In a multi-lateral conflict that keeps getting worse as Mexican drug cartels war over control of lucrative smuggling routes, government forces have captured two jerry-rigged "tanks" in separate incidences: built on American truck chassis and protected by heavy, sloping armor and bulletproof glass, the media in Mexico has been quick to dub them the "Monsters".

Although they more closely resemble a homemade APC, the ungainly vehicles are heavily armed, with rotating gun turrets, rams, myriad gun ports, devices that pour oil or nails on the road... think Mad Max meets James Bond. They are soundproofed and air-conditioned, can carry 12-20 armed men, and are built to withstand up to .50 caliber weaponry or a grenade blast.

While these 'narco tanks' are not tracked vehicles, they cartels have created some pretty formidable contraptions here, whatever you want to call them. To this point, they have not been used against Mexican troops, but only to attack and intimidate rivals... Of course, Mexican and Columbian drug mafias have previously produced homemade, one-use (throw away) submarines to bring cocaine to North American markets, and just last year snapped-up large passenger jets at auction prices only to dump them in the African desert packed with cocaine bound for Europe... so nothing should surprise us coming from these people anymore.

Alas, the human cost has been ghastly: the ongoing drug war in Mexico has already killed five times more people than US fatalities for the whole of the Iraq War... even record busts/confiscations can't seem to put a dent in the perpetual carnage on America's southern border.......

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PERRY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE ZETAS
All Gov Perry did was (1) suckup to the Mexican govt, (2) insist on open borders, and, (3) entice the drug cartels over the border with lots of tax-subsidized giveaways.

GOOD HAIR BUDDIES----PERRY WITH MEXICO'S PRES VICENTE FOX

At a 2001 "border summit" in which he sucked up to Mexicans-----Perry advanced a “bi-national health insurance” program that would cover both US and Mexican residents along the border....including Zetas. Perry praised a “unified,” trans-national health care program. and was ready, willing and eager to pour US dollars on illegals violating US borders.....including Zetas, and those on the border organizing against the US.

One can only imagine what Perry plans to do should he ever get federal power.

85 posted on 09/04/2011 2:37:57 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: WVKayaker; CajunConservative

That is a thin resume for the job she’s running for. Actually in many respects it is very close to Barack Obama’s resume.

But hey, she’s pretty and has nice assets, so what the hell, make her President.

CajunConservative is spot on. Sarah Palin-Thompson is an affirmative action candidate.


86 posted on 09/04/2011 2:39:28 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: ansel12

Reagan voted for FDR all four times. That’s WORSE than voting for Obama.


87 posted on 09/04/2011 2:44:06 PM PDT by Huck (I don't believe there is just one God--humanity seems like the work of a committee to me.)
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To: CajunConservative; onyx; MestaMachine; 2ndDivisionVet; Virginia Ridgerunner
Oh is that the meme today? Sarah Palin is a populist? Since you Perrydrones love touting her endorsement of Perry for governor so much, her populist views must have been unacceptable back then, too, huh? I bet you'll be the first one crying for her endorse of Jimmy Rick if she doesn't run for President too.

Pretty funny, actually, from someone like you who supports a RINO for President, who's history is riddled with shifting to the right when it suits his election needs, then jumping back to the left when he gets what he wants. And you call vetting his record 'leftist attacks'... wow. What next, a stomping fit off stage? Oh wait...

88 posted on 09/04/2011 2:44:12 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: rintense

It’s funny how a Governor from a state as far away from the Southern Border as one can get knows so much more about border security than the Gov of a state that is actually on that border.

“WHERE”S THE FENCE!?!?”


89 posted on 09/04/2011 2:46:08 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: icanhasbailout

Not true. DeMint endorsed Romney in January 2007, long before the field was final.


90 posted on 09/04/2011 2:46:44 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Happy Rain
She certainly knows what works for Arizona. But I forget, the Arizona law isn't right for Texas. Try and shift it back on Palin, but Perry had 10 years to make even the slightest of dents in illegals in Texas.

He hasn't.

91 posted on 09/04/2011 2:50:01 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: WVKayaker

cajunnotconservative enough

Maybe you are just another PDS troll! We discuss her because of her record!You don’t get to decide what conservative means.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I don’t call posters names that I disagree with. I do know how to have a discussion with others. I would appreciate it you would refrain from the personal attacks.

Don’t try to tell me I’m not conservative enough. I guarantee you I’m a real conservative, I just haven’t lost my ability to think for myself by following the herd in the Palin worship going on here.

I really love how a lot of the Palin supporters are acting exactly like the 0bama zombies did. It’s not a good conservative trait!

I’m not trolling. I responded to the reference to SP’s speech about permanent political class and the discussion has gone back and forth from there.


92 posted on 09/04/2011 2:53:14 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Clairity
Yeah, and let's also not forget DeMint is NOT perfect, as is shown here:

Jim DeMint suggests Romney’s health care bill isn’t a 2012 disqualifier

93 posted on 09/04/2011 2:55:43 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Perdogg
I am waiting for people to call DeMint a RINO or Sellout - 3,2,..

Damn, that was fast.

Good call.

I like Palin, and support her, and hope she runs, but this site is becoming less of a conservative site, and more of a "Palin drone" site, its like she is developing a cult of personality. I think she would be an excellent president, I don't think that anyone who isn't 100% committed to her is a Rino, or a closet liberal or the devil though.

94 posted on 09/04/2011 2:59:13 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: ansel12

Just a minor point...but I believe Algore made his first run for president in 1988. President Reagan was not running that year...George H.W. Bush was. Wasn’t he?


95 posted on 09/04/2011 2:59:33 PM PDT by berdie
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To: rintense

Do a search on the topic. It’s not the first time it’s been used in describing Palin’s politics. Populism is an us vs. them style. One of the main things about populism is the way that the politician utilizes emotionalism to stir up the masses. It’s obviously stirred you up since you pinged the gang for a pile on. /rolls eyes.


96 posted on 09/04/2011 3:03:36 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: rintense; CajunConservative; MestaMachine; 2ndDivisionVet; Virginia Ridgerunner; ...
Oh is that the meme today? Sarah Palin is a populist? Since you Perrydrones love touting her endorsement of Perry for governor so much, her populist views must have been unacceptable back then, too, huh? I bet you'll be the first one crying for her endorse of Jimmy Rick if she doesn't run for President too.
Pretty funny, actually, from someone like you who supports a RINO for President, who's history is riddled with shifting to the right when it suits his election needs, then jumping back to the left when he gets what he wants. And you call vetting his record 'leftist attacks'... wow. What next, a stomping fit off stage? Oh wait...

LOL. I had to look to check the original subject of this thread and no matter the topic, it always reverts to Sarah Palin. Like Rush says, "*they* always name the one they fear."

GO SARAH!

97 posted on 09/04/2011 3:05:34 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! If you support SARAH PALIN & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: Sonny M

I cannot understand after 32 months of the worst disaster in American history, people on this site are still seeking perfection. It doesn’t exist.


98 posted on 09/04/2011 3:08:40 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: onyx; rintense; CajunConservative; MestaMachine; Virginia Ridgerunner

If I were a Perrywinkle, Paulestinian, Romneybot or Democrat, I’d be afraid of her, too. The flak is thickest over the target area.


99 posted on 09/04/2011 3:09:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: rintense

Hmmm, it appears you are right. Well, I’d like to hear the explanation for the endorsement, it is not very consistent with the rest of his positions over the years.


100 posted on 09/04/2011 3:13:10 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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