Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach. If this keeps up, we'll get our Freon back!
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Posted on 08/31/2011 9:46:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Has new research disproven the theoretical models of anthropogenic global warming? A new study by a European nuclear research group appears to show that the actual prime cause of temperature shifts in the Earth’s climate isn’t carbon dioxide at all, or even the broader range of “greenhouse gases,” but the large ball of fire in the center of the solar system. Not that this study from CERN has attracted much attention in the media, at least not in the US — but at least Nature reported the results and the implications:
It sounds like a conspiracy theory: ‘cosmic rays’ from deep space might be creating clouds in Earth’s atmosphere and changing the climate. Yet an experiment at CERN, Europe’s high-energy physics laboratory near Geneva, Switzerland, is finding tentative evidence for just that.
Er, it really doesn’t sound like a conspiracy theory. The notion that the sun heats the planets is rather mundane, or at least it used to be before scientists started claiming that carbon dioxide would superheat the atmosphere. In fact, AGW skeptics have long pointed to solar cycles as a much more likely explanation for the gradual but uneven warming seen over the last century or so.
To find out, Kirkby and his team are bringing the atmosphere down to Earth in an experiment called Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets (CLOUD). The team fills a custom-built chamber with ultrapure air and chemicals believed to seed clouds: water vapour, sulphur dioxide, ozone and ammonia. They then bombard the chamber with protons from the same accelerator that feeds the Large Hadron Collider, the world’s most powerful particle smasher. As the synthetic cosmic rays stream in, the group carefully samples the artificial atmosphere to see what effect the rays are having.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Often never...Is that like...sometimes always ???
The only “tipping point” that I am worried about is the one that will send us into the next ice-age. If history is any guide we are over due. All of man's recorded history has taken place in the last interglacial period. The polar bears may thrive, but an ice bound planet earth will be able to support the number of people currently inhabiting the planet.
How silly can it be to be concerned about a temperature increase that is barely within the tolerances of even satellite measurements when the EKG like geologic chart of the earth's past temperatures shows we are standing at the edge of the next precipice? The saving grace is that geologic time is measured in thousands of years so the sharp decline in temperatures will still probably take a hundred years or more. But the success of the AGW hoax still baffles me.
Thanks.
A war on Facebook...something serious to discuss...that would be a change from what I see on Facebook...last time I looked!
/see this thread:
Solyndra Shutting Its Doors ( Goverrnment guaranteed loan of 535 million Dollars for Green Jobs)
And that is a good thing!
A very good book.
LOL!
Says a lot about the power of the Global Media and a Well Organized Plan....and naive sheeple!
There are more facets than just one for the “who is trying to keep this scam alive” question.
Yes, there are some that stood to make a bundle.
Yes, there are some that used it as a power grab and to advance communism.
And there are some that are truly religious about the issue - it is their reason to matter. These are the folks that are LEAST likely to give it up. Imagine giving up your reason to matter in this existance.
Algore, now, is (I believe) a weird combination of “gonna get rich” and “need a reason to matter”.
See #70... it'd be a baffling situation if it DIDN'T succeed.
The affects from cosmic rays are not the primary climate change driver. Not all condensation is caused by cosmic rays. And the cosmic ray effect itself is perhaps one in a series of amplifiers that modify solar emissions changes before they enter the Earth's atmosphere. For example, the AGW proponents have stated that visible light does not change enough to cause significant affect on our climate. Well, we now how discovered one amplification mechanism. So less visible light combined with more clouds equals significant climate changes.
Visible light was always just a part of the spectral picture. There is also infrared and UV light. Without an atmosphere the UV light emission from the sun would destroy all life on this planet just by itself. And NASA has shown significant changes in UV light emission during changes in solar activity. Of course you could not get anyone from NASA or the Ozone Hole crowd to even consider such possibilities 15 years ago.
oops - changes before they - should read - changes as they
Gore exhibits traits of being heavily programmed (IMHO). My guess is it occurred during one of his visits to Russia when he was VP. There used to be a picture on the web that clearly demonstrated some weirdness. Gore was visiting some old Soviets Manor home outside Moscow and a picture was taken of him in standing front of a portrait of Stalin. The look on Gore's face just spoke volumes. That image was scrubbed from the web.
And it is perhaps no coincidence that the Russians are the big efficient energy suppliers, while the west is now killing birds with windmills. And it was perhaps no coincidence that Russians hackers have been rumored to be the ones who exposed the fraudsters in East Anglia. IMHO - The Russians pulled the plug because they have a product they want to sell now and since the Earth may be cooling, that product is even more valuable. Oh, and Gore has absolutely no clue as to what he is currently doing. Which explains his ridiculous racism rebuttal.
The sun's magnetic field affects the Earth's. The sun's eleven year primary sunspot cycle is a symptom of the sun's fluctuating magnetic field. The Earth's field is alternately compressed and expanded by the sun's magnetic field cycle, and more or less cosmic rays rain in and cause cloud formation at different rates and altitudes. Water vapor is orders of magnitude more significant than CO2 as a "greenhouse" gas, hence Earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling coupled to the sunspot cycle.
It is not possible to determine how CO2 affects climate until an accurate model incorporating the naturally driven fluctuations of water vapor in the atmosphere are constructed and validated. I understand that the current climate models typically ignore this difficult problem.
Okay. Just watched the Nir Shaviv on the WUWT thread that
Ernestatthebeach linked above. These cosmic rays are generated by stars within our Milky Way that go super nova. So these particles of cosmic rays are traveling thousands of light years to our solar system. All I can say is these super nova must be generating a lot of rays when they explode. Hard to fathom that we have so many traveling within the Milky Way galaxy.
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And DDT!
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