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Can the US Government Seize Your Silver or Gold? You Bet!
Yahoo Finance via Bloomberg Businessweek ^ | 8-26-11 | Susan Bernfield

Posted on 08/30/2011 12:33:14 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich

How did a Philadelphia family get hold of $40 million in gold coins, and why has the Secret Service been chasing them for 70 years?

U.S. Mint/AP Photo This coin is worth $7.6 million

The most valuable coin in the world sits in the lobby of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in lower Manhattan. It's Exhibit 18E, secured in a bulletproof glass case with an alarm system and an armed guard nearby. The 1933 Double Eagle, considered one of the rarest and most beautiful coins in America, has a face value of $20—and a market value of $7.6 million. It was among the last batch of gold coins ever minted by the U.S. government. The coins were never issued; most of the nearly 500,000 cast were melted down to bullion in 1937.

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Most, but not all. Some of the coins slipped out of the Philadelphia Mint before then. No one knows for sure exactly how they got out or even how many got out. The U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting the nation's currency, has been pursuing them for nearly 70 years, through 13 Administrations and 12 different directors. The investigation has spanned three continents and involved some of the most famous coin collectors in the world, a confidential informant, a playboy king, and a sting operation at the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan. It has inspired two novels, two nonfiction books, and a television documentary. And much of it has centered around a coin dealer, dead since 1990, whose shop is still open in South Philadelphia, run by his 82-year-old daughter.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fdr; jackboots; thugs
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Warning: this article will really piss you off...jackboots taking your stuff. Can they seize your gold or silver? Yep, I say the precedent has been set.
1 posted on 08/30/2011 12:33:16 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich
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To: CincyRichieRich

These coins were never monitized therefore they are not legal tender, they are still the property of the US Treasury/US Mint. The same could be said about the 1913 V Nickel, but those were an illegal strike not authorized by the mint.


2 posted on 08/30/2011 12:36:03 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: CincyRichieRich
The Federal Government under FDR confiscated the gold holdings of U.S. citizens during the Great Depression, and got away with it clean. Of course they will do it again whenever it befits their purpose. Bank on it (no pun intended).

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3 posted on 08/30/2011 12:37:00 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: CincyRichieRich

If you own any of the “Liberty Dollars” the silver pieces that were minted by the NORFED mint they are going to take them too.

The fed hates competition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar


4 posted on 08/30/2011 12:37:12 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: LukeL

they can get mine, only by following a wild goose chase treasure map I’ve put together!


5 posted on 08/30/2011 12:37:55 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Joe Brower

Gold, Silver, FOOD, ammo, guns...

there’s no reason they wouldn’t try to take all of these, unless they foresee a SERIOUS backlash.


6 posted on 08/30/2011 12:39:15 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: CincyRichieRich

can the AMERICAN CITIZEN REVOLT?...YOU BET


7 posted on 08/30/2011 12:41:08 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CincyRichieRich

Should have melted them down.


8 posted on 08/30/2011 12:41:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

What Gold?!? All my gold fell off the boat into the river in the same boating accident where I lost all my guns. Yep, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 12:41:22 PM PDT by apillar
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To: gunsequalfreedom; SeekAndFind

ping


10 posted on 08/30/2011 12:41:30 PM PDT by null and void (Day 949 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: LukeL

These coins were never monitized therefore they are not legal tender, they are still the property of the US Treasury/US Mint. The same could be said about the 1913 V Nickel, but those were an illegal strike not authorized by the mint.


In all fairness you have to admit the one they, “monetized” and my quotes are purposeful, was not a rational decision to monetize it...it was at best random or publicity stunt. These 10 were obtained the same way the other ones were. Seizing is one thing, seizing without ANY compensation is another. It’s akin to taking your house to put in a highway and not giving you the fair value.


11 posted on 08/30/2011 12:42:03 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Not if they can’t find it.


12 posted on 08/30/2011 12:43:20 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Molon Labe!


13 posted on 08/30/2011 12:44:17 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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No one knows for sure exactly how they got out

They were stolen. They are the US government's property...

14 posted on 08/30/2011 12:45:17 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Joe Brower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
Executive Order 6102


15 posted on 08/30/2011 12:46:54 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I pity the fool who comes after my gold.

16 posted on 08/30/2011 12:46:54 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

There’s pretty much a consensus that those coins were illegally removed from the US Mint though. So they are technically stolen property. So I would not lump this case in with other government seizures. These coins never did belong to the people who were in possession of them, imo. They remained the property of the US Mint.


17 posted on 08/30/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Doogle

[can the AMERICAN CITIZEN REVOLT?...YOU BET]

http://www.youtube.com/user/GEICO#p/c/139A69A037F3A12D/9/DjGwusHrOtk

Do Woodchucks Chuck Wood?


18 posted on 08/30/2011 12:49:30 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: CincyRichieRich
I will state this here for future reference... not only can they seize your wealth... if we do not elect a true Conservative warrior and start shunning politicians... THEY WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE EVERYTHING WE HAVE... THEN THEY WILL COME FOR US!

LLS

19 posted on 08/30/2011 12:57:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: CincyRichieRich

bump


20 posted on 08/30/2011 12:58:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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