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To: arrogantsob

It seems to me that both parties are troubled by the candidacy of true Conservatives. Bachmann for example, is considered by the Republican leadership to be somewhat of a sell-out, starting the Tea Party Caucus and standing with the Tea Party in their refusal to vote for the debt ceiling increase.

Cain is probably seen pretty much the same way, in that he is not your average moderate Republican. The man truly seems to get it. I need to know more about him, but this is how I see him to this point.

I see Bachmann and Cain as rather tried and true Conservatives.

I see Romney and Perry as moderate Republicans. On some matters Perry is better than Romney, but I think they are both main-stream party governors.

In the same manner that I think the Left was rather happy to see McCain get the nod in 2008, I think the Left would rather see Romney or Perry vs Bachmann or Cain.

One of my close family relatives actually voted for McCain in 2008, and they’re a flaming 70s liberal on most matters.

What good does it do us to loft people 70s flaming liberals can vote for?

For the record, I do not see Romney or Perry a being as bad as McCain. McCain has been undercutting Conservatism for decades. He has had working relationships with Soros and most of the worst Leftists in government.


205 posted on 08/30/2011 12:23:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: DoughtyOne
>>>>>For the record, I do not see Romney or Perry a being as bad as McCain. McCain has been undercutting Conservatism for decades.

Read your reply and thought, time to chime in.

While its true McCain has been undercutting conservatism for years, not to mention being a real sob. Romney remains an even worse candidate for the GOP in 2012. Since 2007, thread after thread on FR made it crystal clear that Romney was a lifelong liberal who rejected both the Reagan agenda and the Contract With America. His flip flops on abortion, guns, immigration and other issues are legendary. Romney's rhetoric over the last 4 years favoring conservatism is nothing but the opportunism of political expediency. Willard remains a phony and a fraud.

Just as Fred Thompson knocked down Rudy Giuliani in 2007, Rick Perry deserves kudos for knocking Romney down from his #1 ranking in 2011. Something Bachmann and Cain couldn't do. Will Perry be the nominee? I don't know, but right now he's tearing up the field.

215 posted on 08/30/2011 12:53:00 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: DoughtyOne

No one is “troubled” by Cain or Bachmann running because it is obvious neither one is going to get the nomination.

It is delusional to believe the Left is worried more about the above than about Perry. It knows very well how easy it would be to marginalize either of the above and how difficult it would be to do the same with Perry.

There is also no doubt the potential nominee the Left fears and hates above all is Sarah. I have never seen anything like the tsunami of hate it unleashed on her and her familty.


226 posted on 08/30/2011 1:02:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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