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Federal judge blocks Ala. illegal immigration law
AP ^ | August 29, 2011

Posted on 08/29/2011 12:27:09 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

A federal judge temporarily blocked enforcement of Alabama's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, ruling Monday that she needed more time to decide whether the law opposed by the Obama administration, church leaders and immigrant-rights groups is constitutional.

The brief order by U.S. District Judge Sharon L. Blackburn means the law won't take effect as scheduled on Thursday. The ruling was cheered by opponents who have compared the law to old Jim Crow-era statutes against racial integration.

But Blackburn didn't address whether the law is constitutional, and she could still let all or parts of the law take effect later. The judge said she will issue a longer ruling by Sept. 28.

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To: WilliamHouston

Where did that come from? I was speaking about the mythological federal tyranny of 1860. You know the one where there was a TINY federal government with a TINY army, don’t you?


161 posted on 08/30/2011 5:38:23 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Smiles.

Mythological federal tyranny, or prescient prediction about the future of the United States? Say, what were those “military districts” that that mythological tyrants in Washington created here in what you called “Reconstruction”?

As for Lincoln’s Holy Union, it is sacred to Yankees. Yeah, Lincoln’s Union is sacred, but homosexuals can marry each other in Vermont and New York, millions of children have been aborted, the American family has been shattered, and Wall Street and the multinational corporation have been enthroned under President Barack Hussein Obama.

Yeah, but the Union is sacred. The Christmas season has become “Happy Holidays” and every women have been turned into tramps and children don’t even talk to their parents at the dinner table ...

But, Almighty Lincoln sits on his throne in Washington, DC. Shouldn’t the Lincoln Memorial be sitting in Andersonville or Antietam?


162 posted on 08/30/2011 5:58:15 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

Why would Lincoln have treated loyal states like those attacking the United States? How silly particularly since he never intended to do anything about slavery except limit its growth. The RAT Rebellion began even before he took office.

Lincoln had one term as a Congressman.

The Constitution does not “ratify” slavery it was like a farting uncle one must ignore. It also clearly set the stage for its end by preventing any laws wrt it until 1808.

Slavery was also in direct conflict with the basis of our national existence, freedom, and our founding document, The Declaration of Independence.

Yes, all those ole boys were slavers but Washington put the Union at the head of all concerns. Not Virginia but the Union. The others believed more in using the Union to strengthen Virginia which helped lead to the idea of secession. Washington, on the other hand, warned strenuously (through Hamilton’s Farewell Addressed) against secession by NAME.

There were many in the North who actively supported and assisted the Slave Power only a liar or a fool would deny that. But the fact remains that every president prior to Lincoln except JQ Adams either supported or ignored the issue. And Congress was controlled by Southern congressmen.
Hell, Lincoln would not have even been elected except for having fools for enemies. They split the Democrat Party into three factions each running its own candidate hence Lincoln won with 38% of the vote.

After slavery was abolished the South spent the next hundred years trying to re-establish it in FACT if not in name. And don’t try that BS on me I was born and raised in the South and know exactly how Blacks were treated in the 1950s. Of course, things weren’t as bad as in the 1860s and 70s after the Wah when thousands of Blacks and Republicans were just murdered across the South.

Any complaints about the growth of federal power should be directed at Jefferson Davis and crew until they started the insurrection the federal government was tiny. So tiny it did not even have the military forces to defeat these tinpot dictators.

There is no “compact” between the states and the federal government. There is a Constitution ratified by the American People “gathered” in states. There was no ability for a state to ratify. State legislatures (the highest body of a state)were explicitly taken out of the process. Hence, they had no power to affect that constitution outside of constitutionally prescribed means. The whole Southron argument is based upon a huge lie.

Obama’s likeness to Lincoln is as fraudulent as every other thing about him. One is a pygmy and the other a Giant.


163 posted on 08/30/2011 6:01:08 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: WilliamHouston

Typical attempt to distort. I was speaking of 1860 AND YOU KNOW IT. Not what happened to the traitors AFTER they had inflicted hundreds of thousands of deaths upon Union soldiers.

Then after your attempt to distort you go howling into the night screeching about “homosexuals” and “Christmas”, trampy women and morose children.

All because of Lincoln putting down the RAT Rebellion.


164 posted on 08/30/2011 6:05:44 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

(1) It was Abraham Lincoln who attacked the South. It was Abraham Lincoln who invaded the Confederacy. In fact, that is why Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, and Tennessee seceded - where secession had already been voted down - because the tyrant Abe Lincoln was determined to wage a war against the South.

(2) It is my understanding you keep repeating the lie that the war was about slavery. Lincoln himself specifically said the war wasn’t about slavery. He said a million times it was about “preserving the Union,” not about slavery.

Lincoln himself said that if he could preserve the Union with slavery, then he would have done that instead, or preserve the Union without slavery. Either way, preserving the Union (i.e., preserving the Union of the South with the North’s industrial economy and financial sector) was what motivated “Honest Abe.”

(3) Ah ha.

If Lincoln never intended to fight slavery where it existed, then why do you say the war was about slavery? That only proves the South was right. The war was about the right of the South to withdraw from the Black Republican tyranny that had been established in Washington.

(3) It’s unfortunate the “RAT rebellion” didn’t succeed ... I mean, just look at Lincoln’s Union now, in all its glory. Here we have Eric “My People” Holder suing Alabama and Arizona to force an invasion of illegal aliens upon the South.

(4) Lincoln sat in Congress with your “Slave Power.” He wanted to join the U.S. Senate to serve with the “Slave Power,” but was whipped in Illinois by Stephen Douglas.

(5) The Constitution specifically ratified slavery in the 3/5th Clause and in other areas. The Founders created a Republic where slavery was legal. In fact, it was Great Britain, not the United States, that attempted to abolish slavery in the American Revolution.

Do you remember that? It was the British who emancipated the slaves in Virginia in the time of Jefferson and Washington.

(6) Yes, the South had consented to outlawing the slave trade. The South could have rid itself of slavery without the assistance of the North. The Border States were already well on the way to ridding themselves of slavery in 1860.

(7) Really?

I thought the slaveowner Thomas Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence. Didn’t Jefferson go on to become president of the United States? Why didn’t Thomas Jefferson abolish slavery?

(8) Why didn’t George Washington abolish slavery? He owned slaves himself, right?

(9) Why didn’t George Washington use military force to force North Carolina and Rhode Island to join the Union?

(10) George Washington could have easily used force to force North Carolina and Rhode Island to join the Constitution of 1789. Strange how that never happened. The Founders were content to let North Carolina and Rhode Island make their own decisions.

(11) Yes, the hypocrites in the North sold their slaves to the South, pocketed the money, and then announced their “moral superiority” to the world ... where they were the laughingstock of the courts of Europe.

(12) Why did they ignore the issue if slavery was inconsistent with the Declaration of Independence and Constitution as you say?

(13) Why did U.S. Supreme Court rule against the Black Republicans in the Dred Scott decision?

(14) The only reason that Texas and the Southwest are part of the United States is because the South was the dominant section of the Union until the War Between the States.

Were it not for the South, California would be part of Mexico. Hey California, now that the North has elected Barack Hussein Obama as your president, you are returning to Mexico!

(15) Chuckles.

No, Lincoln’s enemies wanted Lincoln to get elected. They wanted him to get elected in order to vindicate themselves in the South.

(16) Bullshit.

Lincoln and the Union Army triumphed in 1865. The course set by the United States since 1965 was the Republican Party agenda, the Lincoln agenda, the North’s agenda of centralizing the government.

That had been the North’s agenda since the Federalists. Centralization was the agenda of Henry Clay’s Whig Party. It was the agenda of Abe Lincoln’s Republican Party. It was the agenda of the Republicans who ruled America with few exceptions until FDR.

After FDR, the North’s agenda began to be associated with the Democrat Party. Barack Hussein Obama is the president of the Northern states. He is still following the same consistent agenda of centralization that has been advocated in New England since the time of Hamilton.

(17) No, the South spent the next 12 years attempting to rid itself of the carpetbagger plunderers, their scalawag allies, and the Union Army which had erected itself as an absolute tyranny over all of Dixie.

(18) Yeah, they were treated so horrible here. There was segregation, I know. They couldn’t drink at a water fountain.

Well, I can’t use the women’s restroom, but you don’t see me complaining about segregation at McDonald’s. It is just a restroom after all.

(19) LMAO.

From 1876 to 1965, there were about 3,500 lynchings in the South, the vast majority of them were because of some type of crime. There were a 1,500 or so lynchings of Whites in the same period.

Now, how many murders, robberies, rapes, aggravated assaults, and burglaries do you suppose blacks have committed on Whites since 1965?

Oh wait ... we can’t talk about that subject, now can we? We can’t talk about the 35,000 White women that were raped by blacks in the United States in 2005 alone.

Yeah, 35,000 black-on-white rapes ... IN ONE YEAR. Total silence from the media ... in Lincoln’s USA.

(20) If there was never a compact between the states in the federal government, then why did each state have to ratify the Constitution to join the Union? Why did each colony secede from the British Empire?

(21) How did the South join the Union? If I am not mistaken, the year was 1865 when the Union Army showed up here and raised its flag over Dixie.

It’s argument was military conquest.

(22) Obama is just like Abraham Lincoln. He is Lincolnesque in every way: he has absolutely no respect for the states, he rules like a dictator, he incites blacks against Whites, he plays favorites with certain groups over others, he holds the Constitution in contempt.

Obama hasn’t gone so far as to threat to arrest the U.S. Supreme Court yet. He hasn’t shutdown Rush Limbaugh yet, but he would like to!

(23) Abraham Lincoln is a giant, all right ... a giant tyrant, who won the Gilded Age for America, and who used his military to murder thousands of Southerners and to pillage our states.

It took us 100 years to recover from Lincoln’s Glorious Union. Unfortunately, it is still around, so now Obama and friends have all the tools of centralized despotism to oppress Alabama and the Southern states.

(21)


165 posted on 08/30/2011 6:27:37 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: arrogantsob

Why did the South secede from Lincoln’s Union? It was because the South saw the agenda of the Republican Party, its Black Republican agenda of consolidationism and financialism and corporatism, and bailed on the Union.

Of course, after the war was over, and the South was prostrate and the North was triumphant, every single thing that the South had warned about before the war came true.

(1) The Union soldiers at Gettysburg were fighting for the Gilded Age.

(2) The Union soldiers at Gettysburg were fighting for the corruption of the Grant administration.

(3) The Union soldiers at Gettysburg were fighting for carpetbagging, plundering the Southern states, ruling over the South as military dictators, robbing people blind here, burning down our cities as the war criminal Sherman did in Atlanta.

(4) The Union soldiers fought for Barack Hussein Obama, for gay marriage, for Lady Gaga, for the War on Christmas, for Roe v. Wade, for every other species of fanaticism and insanity that has come out of that part of the country, which the centralized despotism that Lincoln and friends has extended across the North American continent.

(5) Yes, isn’t the culture of Yankeeland a wonderful thing? In Vermont and New York, homosexuals can marry each other. They have gay pride parades. The American Family Association is labeled a “hate group” by the New York Times.

Yeah, in Lincoln’s Union, there is such a thing as a right to a no fault divorce and a right to abort your child and a right to marry someone of your own sex and the right to work in the pornography industry ... yes, but the “Union” is sacred, you see.

His Royal Highness Barack Hussein Obama is our President ... and it is treasonous to suggest that the foreign alliance he has struck with Mexico to reverse the Texas Revolution by welcoming an invasion of the Lone Star State is “treason.

Yeah, it is treason to question His Royal Highness Barack Hussein Obama, just like it was treason to revolt against “Honest Abe,” his hero from Illinois.

Abraham Lincoln gave us the “Union” that we are familiar with today - a place where Washington micromanages literally everything right down to whether you can grow food in your backyard or how you can run your own restaurant.

Again, I want to point out that it is Lincoln’s Union that believes gay marriage and abortion are sacrosanct, and the Confederacy is a betrayal of the Founding Fathers!


166 posted on 08/30/2011 6:38:44 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

Looks like you never heard of Fort Sumter.

The Wah was about slavery FOR THE SLAVERS not for Lincoln. Don’t lie about things I have not said. For the Slavers it was ENTIRELY about slavery and they admitted it.

Exactly preserving the Union was Lincoln’s entire rationale. Like Andy Jackson he would do anything to preserve the Union.

Where did you get this idea that the war was about slavery for Lincoln? Certainly not from me.

Tyranny in Washington in 1860? You know it is a lie to make that absurd claim. What tyranny?

Today’s Union is not Lincoln’s Union any more than it is Washington’s Union.

How could you mitigate the effects of the Slave Power without sitting in Congress or a statehouse or being political?

No, the Constitution never mentioned the word slavery it certainly did not “ratify” it. It was embarrassing to even mention the word. And slavery was not abolished in England during the Revolution. Its offer of freedom was strictly a military tactic and an effective one. About four or five times as many Blacks went for freedom and fought against us than for us. Congress rejected Hamilton’s (and John Laurens) plan to raise troops from slaves with the offer of freedom.

Jefferson was a big hypocrite whatever his rhetorical skills. The more you learn about him the less impressive he is. Great cabinet maker. Washington freed his slaves upon the death of Martha. Jefferson freed only the Hemmings upon his death.

RI and NC did not ratify as quickly as did the others but there was no doubt that they would and both rather panicked in pleading with Washington not to treat them in a punitive fashion. They did nothing treasonous.

Nor was there any doubt that they would NOT “go their own directions” but would rejoin the Union under the new terms.

Where do you get the idea that the Northern slavers were the same ones who opposed slavery later? They were NOT. After the Revolution there were many pockets of slavery within the North but all those states had banned it decades before the War started. It was growing in the South.

Democrats made common cause with Slavers for political power in the North. NYC was highly pro-slavery even during the War with Copperhead mayors and governors. Democrat opposition was always a danger to the Union during the War.

Taney’s decision was an abomination - even free blacks are not citizens and it took the Emancipation Proclamation and three constitutional amendments to undo its damage. Republicans had nothing to do with the case or the decision.


167 posted on 08/30/2011 6:59:04 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: WilliamHouston

What do Texas and California have to do with the discussion.

The government shrank drastically after the War. And because of the little megalomaniac we have no idea what Lincoln would have done. Even southerners said that they had lost their best friend with his death.

Federalists understood that we needed an effective government since they were primarily the ex-Continental Army officers and soldiers they had seen what excessive state power would do and understood that the Revolutionary War had almost been lost because of too little national authority. There was a reason that Washington loved Hamilton and supported him almost totally and that was because he knew he was a patriot and the greatest genius of his generation whose love of country and contributions to its freedom were second to no one.

The South would have been spared much of its misery had Lincoln not been killed but Booth’s act was like so much of the slavery mentality - cut off your nose to spite your face. But once the ex-slaver power structure started killing and terrorizing blacks and republicans the army had to get involved. There were incidents where hundreds of blacks where killed in race riots and just plain attacks on unarmed people in addition the the sneak murders by night and from ambush.

Either you were not alive prior and during to the civil rights movement or you are a liar attempting to trivialize a tragedy. Even as a kid I knew that the way blacks were treated was wrong.

Black crime is a serious issue but defending slavers won’t help correct it. But mainly the crime is against other blacks. How many black women were raped by blacks?

The American People GATHERED in states for administrative ease ratified the Constitution. The power which lies within the PEOPLE and which created the States and their government was called upon to ratify. They made sure the ratification was NOT by legislatures because this was a special act outside normal political channels.

You try to excuse crime and atrocities from 140 yrs ago by pointing to crime TODAY? Be serious.

In 1865 the South did not rejoin the Union since it had never left. There was some time (except for Arkansas) before representatives returned to Congress.

It took 100 yrs for the South to recover from the insane Slaver attempt to destroy the Union.


168 posted on 08/30/2011 7:22:33 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: WilliamHouston

What do Texas and California have to do with the discussion.

The government shrank drastically after the War. And because of the little megalomaniac we have no idea what Lincoln would have done. Even southerners said that they had lost their best friend with his death. Putting that fool, Johnson, in power helped no one.

Federalists understood that we needed an effective government. Since they were primarily the ex-Continental Army officers and soldiers they had seen what excessive state power would do and understood that the Revolutionary War had almost been lost because of too little national authority.

There was a reason that Washington loved Hamilton above all men and supported him almost totally and that was because he knew he was a patriot and the greatest genius of his generation whose love of country and contributions to its founding and freedom were second to no one.

The South would have been spared much of its misery had Lincoln not been killed but Booth’s act was like so much of the slavery mentality - cut off your nose to spite your face. But once the ex-slaver power structure started killing and terrorizing blacks and republicans the army had to get involved. There were incidents where hundreds of blacks where killed in race riots and just plain attacks on unarmed people in addition the the sneak murders by night and from ambush. That doesn’t even speak to the lynchings.

Either you were not alive prior and during to the civil rights movement or you are a liar attempting to trivialize a tragedy. Even as a kid I knew that the way blacks were treated was wrong.

Black crime is a serious issue but defending slavers won’t help correct it. But mainly the crime is against other blacks. How many black women were raped by blacks?

The American People GATHERED in states for administrative ease ratified the Constitution. The power which lies within the PEOPLE and which created the States and their government was called upon to ratify. They made sure the ratification was NOT by legislatures because this was a special act outside normal political channels. It could not be undone by a state action.

You try to excuse crime and atrocities from 140 yrs ago by pointing to crime TODAY? Be serious.

In 1865 the South did not rejoin the Union since it had never left. There was some time (except for Arkansas) before representatives returned to Congress.

It took 100 yrs for the South to recover from the insane Slaver attempt to destroy the Union.


169 posted on 08/30/2011 7:26:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: WilliamHouston

How was Lincoln going to do what you claimed when he didn’t control Congress or the Supreme Court when the RAT Rebellion started? It is just a lie.

No one said a thing to Reb soldiers about any of the subjects you pretend were said.

Man you are one sick dude. It is hilarious the way you America haters just rave about anything and everything without the slightest logical connection between them. You are you own worst enemy and the hyperbole and utter falsehood destroys and credibility you might hope for.

Your entire belief is based upon LIES.


170 posted on 08/30/2011 7:32:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Did you ever notice that the con-feds who claimed that they were escaping an overbearing union created a cheap imitation of the very thing they ran away from? Well, with one important distinction - they made slavery a cornerstone of their unholy alliance.


171 posted on 08/30/2011 8:12:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: arrogantsob; WilliamHouston; central_va; Monorprise; cowboyway; Idabilly; PeaRidge; phi11yguy19
The Wah was about slavery FOR THE SLAVERS...

Yep, those YANKEE SLAVERS who were making fortunes shipping slaves, selling slaves, financing slaves, insuring slaves, producing textiles using slave grown cotton, etc., etc., etc. It was for the YANKEE SLAVERS, indeed.

172 posted on 08/30/2011 8:17:23 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: arrogantsob

(1) Fort Sumter, you mean the fort in South Carolina, right? Lincoln’s Gulf of Tonkin moment?

(2)Umm no ... the South seceded in the name of states rights, and Lincoln invaded to “preserve the Union.” Several years later, when Lincoln needed to deter Britain and France from recognizing the Confederacy, he “emancipated” the slaves in Confederate territory, while maintaining slavery in the Union.

(3) No, it wasn’t.

Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens both made it clear that the slavery issue was simply the occasion of the conflict and that the fundamental cause was irreconcilable differences between the North and the South on the nature of the federal government.

Is the federal government a limited government and voluntary union of the states, or is it a consolidated despotism under the dollar.

(4) If Andy Jackson had lived to see what Abraham Lincoln did to Tennessee, he would have assassinated Lincoln himself.

(5) You said the war was about slavery. Lincoln himself said the war about “preserving the Union,” not about slavery.

(6) The South seceded because Lincoln - a Black Republican, a sectional candidate - had been elected. The agenda of the Republican Party was perceived as tyrannical. The South bailed.

Of course the South was right about that ... as we all found out after the war when the tyranny was unveiled and the states were consolidated, just as the South had predicted would happen.

(7) Bullshit!

Lincoln destroyed the Republic of the Founding Fathers. He created a new one based on the “higher law” of military conquest and his sacred ideal of the Union.

The Union that we live under today is Lincoln’s creation, the Republican Party’s creation, the 14th Amendment Union which gives the federal government unlimited power over the states.

(8) William Lloyd Garrison never state in Congress. In fact, Garrison said the Constitution was a pact with the devil. The abolitionists burned the Constitution in the streets.

William Seward, for example, said there was a “higher law” that the Constitution.

(9) Hmm.

What’s this in the Constitution then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Clause

“No person held to service or labour in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labour, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labour may be due.”

(10) Like Abraham Lincoln, Great Britain abolished slavery as a war measure in the American Revolution to “preserve the Union.”

Shouldn’t you have fought for King George III in the American Revolution?

(11) Yes, “African-Americans” and “Native Americans” fought on the other side of the American Revolution.

(12) Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence. In the White House, Jefferson gave us the Louisiana Purchase.

Lincoln was nothing more than a tyrant.

(13) Washington owned slaves throughout his life. How come George Washington isn’t part of the “Slave Power”?

(14) Rhode Island and North Carolina seceded from the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution of 1789 was ratified. Yet neither Rhode Island or North Carolina were coerced to join the inviolable, sacred Union.

Why is that?

(15) If the Union is sacred and inviolable, why were North Carolina and Rhode Island left to their own devices by the Founders?

(16) Oh wait ... there was that thing called the “Bill of Rights” which was tacked onto the Constitution ... which contained the Tenth Amendment, correct?

The Tenth Amendment which is a dead letter under Barack Hussein Obama according to Jeffrey Toobin in the New Yorker.

(17) The North sold its slaves to the South, pocketed the money, and then proclaimed its own moral superiority!

Of course the morally superior North had brought many of the slaves here to the USA to begin with ... and to much of Latin America, too.

(18) Yes, not everyone in the North was happy with Lincoln’s tyranny. The heel of his despotism was felt there on the homefront in his repeated violations of the Constitution.

(19) Taney’s decision was legally sound. The Founders clearly did not ever entertain the notion that blacks were citizens. This can be seen in a thousand different pieces of evidence.

(20) Yes, the Republican Party passed the 14th Amendment in order to enthrone Washington over the states, to give Washington unlimited centralized power over the states.

That’s the system we live under today, the Lincoln-Johnson-Grant system, not the Constitution of 1789 which died in the War Between the States.


173 posted on 08/30/2011 8:21:42 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: arrogantsob

(1) LOL

You make it sound like Congress, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court could restrain the tyrant Abraham Lincoln. Do any of these institutions restrain the tyrant Barack Hussein Obama in our own times?

(2) Oh, so I hate “America” now?

No, I love America the way it used to be, the America that existed from 1789 to 1861, the America that became a great nation when the South was the dominant section.

Back then, we didn’t live under a vast centralized government that micromanages our lives in every day. We didn’t live under a tyrannical central state and a nanny state that monitors our language like a Yankee school marm for violations of political correctness.

Do I like Reconstruction America? Gilded Age America? That’s what the Union Army was fighting for? The Gilded Age. The rule of money. Corporate oligarchy.

No, I don’t like the North’s version of America at all. Neither did the North itself. Decades after the War Between the States, the North admitted to itself that the “Civil War” had been a mistake.

(3) Lincoln’s “New Birth of Freedom” is one of the biggest lies that has ever been told in world history.

Here’s your “New Birth of Freedom” Georgia. William Sherman has come to burn down Atlanta. Sherman has come to Columbia to loot and pillage and rape and murder and burn down the capitol of South Carolina.

How do you like the taste of this bayonet? It is the “New Birth of Freedom.” LOL


174 posted on 08/30/2011 8:28:32 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: arrogantsob

(1) First, the North was violently opposed to the Mexican War, which gave us the American Southwest, as well as the annexation of Texas.

In 1965, the North passed the Immigration Act of 1965, in order to spit on the graves of the Texans who won their independence, and to create “Aztlan” in the Southwest.

(2) The government shrank drastically after the War Between the States? Really?

Just what was that military occupation then?

(3) Lincoln had already killed enough people in both the North and the South. What would he have done in a second term? Hell, I don’t know, but no one in the South wanted to find out!

(3) ROFL!

Lincoln was our best friend? Abraham Lincoln killed more people in the South than any man in all of history. 9/11 was nothing compared to what Lincoln did to Virginia.

(4) Andrew Johnson was a lot more reasonable than Abraham Lincoln. Of course he was impeached by the fanatic wing of the Republican Party who installed Grant in power who presided over one of the most corrupt administrations in U.S. history.

(5) Yes, I believe the Federalists wanted a monarchy and a central bank originally. Now we got the Federal Reserve. The national debt is upwards of 16 trillion dollars or thereabouts.

Alexander Hamilton would be proud. Generations of Americans have been enslaved to Chinese bondholders.

(6) King George III was offering us a much better deal in 1776 compared to the one we got under Abraham Lincoln.

(7) I don’t remember Hamilton becoming president. Of course John Adams was defeated in 1800 after his support for the Alien and Sedition Acts.

(8) George Washington = Slave Power, right?

(9) ROFL

Terrorizing blacks ... no, the “Republican Party” got involved because now that the blacks had been freed, it meant that they would be counted as full citizens, and correspondingly the power of the South would increase in the reunited Union.

And so, the North intervened on behalf of the blacks (no, on behalf of the banks, on behalf of the corporations, on behalf of the railroads) to build a Republican Party in the South in order to cement its own victory indefinitely.

Thus, the “New Birth of Freedom” involved disenfranchising Southerners and marching the “freedmen” to the ballot box at gun point to vote for carpetbaggers and scalawags.

(10) In 2005, 35,000 white women were raped by blacks, in a single year.

How many white citizens do you suppose have been robbed, raped, murdered and assaulted by blacks since 1965? Oh wait .. the MSM tells us that those “flash mobs” and shit like that is just “rightwing paranoia.”

Nothing like that ever happened during Reconstruction. Yankee historians are certain that the “freedmen” were well behaved and that governments of the Reconstruction South were run for the public good of all citizens!

(11) Sorry, I was born in Alabama in 1980. I’m only 30 years old.

I didn’t get to see the great MLK himself here, but I did get to see the results of the Civil Rights Movement, which aren’t often discussed in the Mainstream Media.

For example, did you know that 200 white women are raped every year by blacks in my state? I’m sure that at least 1,000 white women have been raped here since 2000 alone.

Just how many white women do you suppose are raped in the South every year? What is the actual number? I’m sure we can find out.

(8) Again, I was born in 1980. In my country, it is white people who are treated wrong, and its blacks who are put up on a pedestal.

In my country, I am discriminated against on account of my skin color. Jesse Jackson is a respected “civil rights activist,” but I could lose my job for saying that I actually really don’t have a problem with being a White guy.

(9) I can only laugh when you bring up lynching. You must not have any idea of the extent of black-on-white crime in this country.

Again, in 2005, 35,000 white women were raped by blacks, whereas in the entire Jim Crow era around 3,500 blacks were lynched, and quite a few of those were just common criminals who met their fate through extra-legal means.

Did you see what happened in Britain earlier this month? What about the flash mobs? Have you heard of those?

(10) In Alabama, 92 percent of interracial rape is black-on-white, and 89 percent of interracial rape in North Carolina is black-on-white.

(11) 96 percent of the crime in Chicago is committed by blacks and Hispanics. 92 percent of the crime in Atlanta is committed by blacks and Hispanics.

Yeah, to hear Sharpton and Jackson tell the story, they are the victims of violence!

(12) The “American people” is a myth. There was no ratification of the Constitution by the people. It was ratified by the state who were recognized as sovereign in the treaty with Great Britain.

(13) How odd.

Are you telling me the South agreed to a compact which was absolutely indestructible? For some reason, I just don’t buy that. In fact, I seem to recall Virginia including that phrase about its right to secede, and North Carolina agreeing on the condition of the Tenth Amendment.

(14) You are the one who brought up lynching. I just pointed out the fact that 35,000 white women were raped by blacks in 2005. It makes lynching seem trivial by comparison.

It is like comparing a thimble of violence to an ocean of violence.

(15) Bullshit.

The South left the Union twice ... when it seceded and created the Confederacy, and again when the U.S. Congress dissolved the Southern states and created military districts here.

Such is the perverse Yankee view of history: the South couldn’t secede from the Union, by the Black Republicans in Congress could abolish the states!

(16) LOL, no.

It took the South 100 years to recover because the North was the absolutely dominant section of the Union from Lincoln to FDR.

The South writhed in poverty because it was a part of the Union. Previously, Mississippi and Alabama had been two of the wealthiest states in the Union, but were destroyed by Lincoln’s Army and the Republican Party.


175 posted on 08/30/2011 8:52:54 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: Puppage

When will this judge block enforcement of rape, murder, or burglary laws?
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When whites are the victims.


176 posted on 08/30/2011 10:28:37 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Second Amendment First

“Pro-amnesty for illegal immigrant” judges is, just, a small fraction out of ALL of the reasons why it’s all over for the U.S., as a capitalistic country, maybe forever! Political correctness is so deeply entrenched for so many people that nobody is even trying to get rid of all of political correctness on all of the issues! Allowing amnesty for illegal immigrants to happen is political correctness as is: the ongoing “dumbing down” of the general public; the ongoing practice of affirmative action; the ongoing political indoctrination in schools; the ongoing political bias in the MSM; ongoing activist judges legislating from the bench; leftists continuing to work in all non-voting jobs where political actions are key;...


177 posted on 08/30/2011 11:44:48 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: arrogantsob
There is no “compact” between the states and the federal government. There is a Constitution ratified by the American People “gathered” in states. There was no ability for a state to ratify. State legislatures (the highest body of a state)were explicitly taken out of the process. Hence, they had no power to affect that constitution outside of constitutionally prescribed means. The whole Southron argument is based upon a huge lie.

Only a hater of the republic could even think this way. Evil.

178 posted on 08/31/2011 4:20:54 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WilliamHouston
Several years later, when Lincoln needed to deter Britain and France from recognizing the Confederacy, he “emancipated” the slaves in Confederate territory, while maintaining slavery in the Union.

I disagree here. There was a more practical reason for emancipation. The Illinois Butcher™ was running out of Irish immigrants and needed a new supply of meat to put between DC and the Army of Northern Virginia. The black man would do just fine in that role.

179 posted on 08/31/2011 4:29:48 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arrogantsob; WilliamHouston
Didn't the federal government, once limited to a few enumerated powers -- a servant of the union of sovereign states and the people themselves -- reverse its status and become the master?

If At First You Don't Secede.

180 posted on 08/31/2011 6:18:32 AM PDT by Idabilly (If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?')
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