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Michigan Man Killed By Grizzly In Yellowstone
npr.org ^ | 29 August, 2011 | AP

Posted on 08/29/2011 11:09:26 AM PDT by marktwain

A grizzly bear killed a Michigan man whose body was found by hikers last week in Yellowstone National Park, officials said Monday.

The victim was identified Monday as John Wallace of Chassell, Mich.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; grizzly; mi; yellowstone
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To: Second Amendment First
Greg Brush, an Alaskan fishing guide

Couldn't ask for a more appropriate name! :-)

That's about as good as the team of surgeons they used to have up in Coeur d'Alene: Cutter and Slaughter. Don't know if they're still there or not.

61 posted on 08/29/2011 3:57:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the opposite direction.')
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To: RandallFlagg
It still makes no sense to me. If a good size bear is coming after me, why wouldn’t thirteen rapidly fired .45 ACP rounds at least give the bear pause? Or at least slow it down for a reload of the NEXT thirteen. Wash, rinse, repeat until out of ammo. I’d think that if at least half of the bullets hit on target.....I’m not wanting to start an argument here. I’m just saying: It makes no sense to me.

It's pretty simple, I think. Bears run very fast. And if they're running very fast straight at you you'll be lucky to get off even one shot, much less twenty-six. And then there's the question of hitting him. And then, if it's a grizzly, there's the question of whether or not hitting him makes any difference at all before you're dinner.

62 posted on 08/29/2011 4:01:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the opposite direction.')
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, I figure that into it.
However, from the animal’s prospective, the loudest thing they usually hear is thunder.
Thunder, accompanied with painful impacts, energy transfer...
Considering these are animals, I would think that instinct would cause them to think twice?
I dunno. Just wondering out loud.
Speculating about this is safer, I guess.
Wouldn’t want to test these thoughts at all.


63 posted on 08/29/2011 4:33:13 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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To: roaddog727

Don’t you know that they have been “transporting” grizzlies into Yellowstone in an effort to restore a breeding population there? In a previous fatal case the hiker was blamed because he “ignored a sign” saying that a grizzly had been released in the area. In this case you’ll note that the hiker was on an approved trail. Of course guns are not allowed.


64 posted on 08/29/2011 4:36:37 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SJackson

It looks like this guy did the trifecta of idiocy for hiking in grizz country; he was alone, he kept his food near him, and (from the way the article reads) he was unarmed.


65 posted on 08/29/2011 4:40:09 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.
66 posted on 08/29/2011 4:40:15 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: SJackson

LOL! Six seconds! How’d you do that?


67 posted on 08/29/2011 4:42:13 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Stonewall Jackson

In the process. Someone frmailed me the link, I’m not that fast


68 posted on 08/29/2011 4:45:01 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: SJackson

I figured as much. Still, it was one of those “What the?” moments when I refreshed after posting and your post was already sitting behind mine.


69 posted on 08/29/2011 4:51:05 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
MICHIGAN PING LIST

Please freepmail me if you wish to be added or dropped from the mitten ping.

70 posted on 08/29/2011 4:56:05 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: cripplecreek

now thts funny


71 posted on 08/29/2011 5:27:35 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

It pays to know these things.


72 posted on 08/29/2011 5:30:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Someone needs to invent a bear spray forend for a 12 gauge double ....

A guide I used when fly fishing last year uses bear dogs that harrass but won’t chase a bear. Backed by a double 12Ga the guide carried.

When I was stationed up there in the 80’s I used the same rig. A double 12 gauge with 00 buck and a slug.

Purchased a .500 Linebaugh Bisley before I was transfered to the lower 48 but still packed the double 12Ga when fishing.


73 posted on 08/29/2011 5:32:05 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: marktwain

Never hike in bear country alone. Always hike with a companion you can out run.........


74 posted on 08/29/2011 5:32:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: RandallFlagg
Wouldn’t want to test these thoughts at all.

Me neither. lol...

I've read the Lewis and Clark accounts of their first encounters with these bears. The first couple were small, and they got a little cocky. Lewis wrote in his journal: "Well, you know, I can understand how the Indians...armed as they are with just some bows and arrows, might be frightened of this monster. But in the hands of an experienced woodsman with a good rifle, they’re nothing to be afraid of." But then they started to meet the big ones. The third one took seven or eight balls and still wouldn't come down and chased them into a river. One of them had to climb a tree to get away from one. They had all kinds of fun, until finally, Lewis wrote in his journal, "I find the curiosity of our men with respect to this animal is pretty much satisfied."

:-)

75 posted on 08/29/2011 5:49:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the opposite direction.')
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To: marktwain

ONE OF OUR PRIESTS (JUST 3 YEARS OUT OF SEMINARY) IS OUT IN YELLOWSTONE RIGHT NOW HOPING TO SEE A GRIZZLEY — ARMED WITH BEAR SPRAY. WE HAVE SUCH A PRIEST SHORTAGE THAT I AM PRAYING THAT HE DOESN’T SIGHT ONE!


76 posted on 08/29/2011 6:12:22 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: RandallFlagg
I am all for having a firearm I think that if you read all my posts you well find that out. I load a 250gr keith hard cast SWC bullet in my 45acp.

At 900fps I wouldn't have any trouble driving one of them through a bears skull. I think You are confusing my posts with the party I am posting too.

Any fire arm is better than no firearm.

77 posted on 08/29/2011 6:50:50 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Oh, I was just rambling toward you because you had mentioned it.
No confusion at all, and no assumptions made. I was just thinking out loud.


78 posted on 08/29/2011 6:59:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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To: Second Amendment First

“He drew a Ruger .454 Casull revolver. There was no time to aim, barely time to squeeze the trigger. He’s not sure whether he got off two shots or three, but one proved fatal.”

I’m betting he will remember how many times he fired when he finally gets around to opening the cylinder and reloads the thing.


79 posted on 08/29/2011 7:49:30 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: ltc8k6

“Probably better to have a nice 18.5” bbl 12ga pump loaded with slugs. Or maybe alternating slug and 00 buck.”

Look up Saiga 12.

Buy.

Carry 8, or 10 round stick magazines.

The 20 round drum is just too bulky for regular carry, IMHO, and can’t the drum can’t use 3” mag loads.


80 posted on 08/29/2011 8:32:32 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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