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A two-man GOP presidential race? (Perry v Romney)
LA Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 08/29/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by AAABEST

Until a few weeks ago, the race for the Republican presidential nomination seemed wide open. There was a presumptive front-runner, Mitt Romney, but he held first place mostly because he was a familiar face; his support among Republican voters appeared broad but not deep.

Many conservatives at the party's core weren't happy with Romney, and a line of would-be champions has auditioned for their support, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. But none of them succeeded in knocking Romney off his perch.

Until now. Only two weeks after entering the race, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has abruptly leapt to the top of nationwide polls.

First, the polls. Last week the Gallup Poll showed Perry leading the field with support from 29% of Republican voters, with Romney at 17% and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 13%. (Other surveys came up with similar results.) Perry's 29% was a stronger showing than Romney had enjoyed in most polls all year.

Though Perry is running strongest among conservatives, who make up a big majority of the GOP electorate, he has attracted a wider range of Republicans as well: high income and low income, college educated and blue collar, Northern and Southern. Some of Perry's support came from former Bachmann voters, but much of it came from voters who once preferred Romney — an ominous finding for the former front-runner, who still has a slight edge among moderates in the party.

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KEYWORDS: perry; rinofreeamerica; romeny
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To: pgkdan

I predict we’re going to see a lot of both Perry and Bachmann before Feb. 6.


101 posted on 08/29/2011 12:18:17 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Monorprise
Due to the fact that Texas was its own republic and as such still owns pretty much all of its own land.

Very true.


102 posted on 08/29/2011 12:19:53 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: ken5050

“I would just LOVE to see Palin as Sec of Energy in a Perry administration..”

I’d like to see Trump making trade policy in a Perry Administration. But I’m not sure how Perry could convince Trump to take that job.


103 posted on 08/29/2011 12:21:38 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Retired Greyhound; treetopsandroofs
I agree that a Perry/Romney ticket is out, for the reasons you mention.

There might be a chance of a Perry/Palin ticket.

104 posted on 08/29/2011 12:22:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Perry/Palin would make more sense, but there isn’t much reason for Palin to take the #2 spot. She’ll be just as influential as the vice president, without being saddled with President Perry’s policies.

My guess is that Palin sits this one out and runs in either four or eight years, depending on the outcome of 2012.


105 posted on 08/29/2011 12:31:05 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Servant of the Cross

I think everyone has lost sight of this and while the president may have the power to appoint Supreme Court justices, the senate has the power to confirm or deny those appointments; furthermore, regardless of what we want to happen, the fact of the matter remains that we have a better chance of winning the Senate than the Whitehouse. I would vote for Perry if he received the nomination but that doesn’t mean I trust Perry to serve our interests if elected. I lived in Texas for 10 years. During 3 of those years, Perry was Lt. Gov. The other 7, he was Governor. I don’t think he (or his Texas) is nearly as conservative as many of us want to believe which isn’t surprising considering that he was a Democrat before he was a Republican; in fact, he headed Al Gore’s Texas election campaign in 1988. He has an A+ rating from the NRA but I would be just as uncomfortable driving through Perry’s Texas with a handgun as I would through Brown’s California or Romney’s Massachusetts (unlike Arizona). Then there’s the illegal immigration problem that Perry has done NOTHING about (unlike Arizona).


106 posted on 08/29/2011 12:33:03 PM PDT by RC one (NO MORE RINOs!!!)
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To: Retired Greyhound
I don't see much energy being generated in 2016 or 2020 by somebody who spent part of a term as governor of a minor state, and then didn't do anything of significance as an elected official in years.

If she enters the race, shows an enthusiastic base, but is unable to overcome Perry's lead, then her best bet is to accept VP. A VP who has been thoroughly seasoned, and is still reasonably young, would be a great candidate in 2020.

107 posted on 08/29/2011 12:36:54 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Abraham Lincoln served in the Black Hawk War. Michelle Bachmann was born in Black Hawk County, Iowa.

I'm sure Bernice King must have meant to say "the Emancipation Proclamation." It's an easy mistake to make, like Obama forgetting how many states there are.

108 posted on 08/29/2011 12:56:54 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Monorprise
Trump could NEVER serve in an administration, and anyone who'd offer him a position is insane.

Trump is a narcissist, a self-promoter...and no conservative...just look at what he's advocated..positions he's taken in the past...he goes whichever way he thinks the wind is blowing, or he sees his hair moving..

109 posted on 08/29/2011 12:57:48 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Bachmann would be the first "just a Congress member" candidate since Abraham Lincoln to become President, and honestly, I'm just not seeing the comparison.

Gee, that sounds like the current zipperhead in the WH. At least Bachmann HAS a resume.

110 posted on 08/29/2011 1:59:40 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: shield; All

111 posted on 08/29/2011 2:20:43 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: tsowellfan
Sarah isn't running! she would have everything to lose and nothing to gain.

She knows she can't win. If she ran and lost the MSM wouldn't even give her the time of day.

By NOT running whe can keep everybody guessing another 4 to 8 years...and would still be young.

If Perry wins, I think she will have a role in his administration...and she needs the experience if she ever wants to run for POTUS.

FACT: She was gov of Alaska for 2 yers. The population of Alaska was about 700,000...and about 66 % of them were white.

San Antonio, TX has about 1,500,000...and SA isn't the largest city in TX.

112 posted on 08/29/2011 2:38:48 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“I didn’t know Romney had written off SC. Where does he see his path to the nomination?”

Romney is attempting to run to the Left of Perry...he knows Perry will crush him in SC with strong support from Gov. Haley, not that he would need that.

Romney is surrounded by Big Party Elite Establishment types who are clueless and out of touch. I’m glad he’s getting bad advice too lol.

It’s Perry’s nomination to lose...with the current crop that has announced. If things stay the same, he won’t lose, he will win in a walk with a strong history of winning elections and putting together large campaign organizations.

I hold out hope for Palin...but I really like Perry.


113 posted on 08/29/2011 3:33:07 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasles.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I agree. I doubt Palin wants to be saddled down as a VP, when she can have more impact on conservatism while she freelances...and still run in 20.

I think Perry will consider both McDonnel from Va and Rubio form Florida.

I can see no possible way for an Obama win in Florida...but Va could be more of a battleground with the govt growing in the DC/NVa Metro area (as well as govt contractors).

McDonnell from Virginia would bring formidable electoral strength to a Perry run...and he is a strong conservative as well.


114 posted on 08/29/2011 3:39:33 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasles.)
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To: rbmillerjr

No way Baraq wins Florida, and I doubt he wins VA this time around, either.

He had to carry a lot of unlikely states to win in 2008. Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado...it won’t happen again.


115 posted on 08/29/2011 3:48:45 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound

Correct. By putting the Va Governor on the ticket, it makes that state out of play for Obama...and he would need all of those states plus others like Nevada to win.

Va, with a strong popular Rep. Gov. is a great add to the ticket.


116 posted on 08/29/2011 3:52:00 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasles.)
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To: rbmillerjr

I don’t understand why the VA Gov never considered running himself. They have a one-term limit in VA, and I understand he is pretty popular.


117 posted on 08/29/2011 3:57:01 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound

Great question.

He may understand his importance on the ticket in a state Obama almost has to win. No shot in NC, no shot in Fla.....only a small shot in Va/Ind.

Obama’s path is shrinking....but you cant rule out the power of the media to lie, distort, manipulate for their boy.


118 posted on 08/29/2011 4:04:07 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasles.)
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To: AAABEST

This article will make David Brooks cry.


119 posted on 08/29/2011 4:04:52 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Sarajevo
Gee, that sounds like the current zipperhead in the WH. At least Bachmann HAS a resume.

Comparing Bachmann and Obama is absurd on pretty much any level except for the resume department. They're pretty much even there. Not that Bachmann doesn't have a bright and rising career ahead of her, but neither she nor Obama have the kind of resumes that are normally considered for being President.

Governors, generals or Vice Presidents are 95% of what we elect. That is what it is.

120 posted on 08/29/2011 4:11:20 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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